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Originally Posted by AWMC  A friend and I get into this union nonunion debate sometimes he’s a union carpenter. I do agree with him that the unions did help raise the wages for everyone and when they started the unions did have there place, but like a lot of other things corruption and greed took over. If everything gets unionized which is what he union wants the cost of living will go through the roof. For example take a gallon of milk if you unionize everything from the person sucking out of the cow to the person bagging it at the store that once $4 gallon will be about $30 a gallon. I’m all for people making as much as they can but at some point in time common sense needs to takeover. Take the auto industry. I would agree that the companies are in part to blame, what the companies should have done was told the union to go and pound sand when they came in demanded higher wages. As far as the auto companies not making vehicles that Americas don’t want I would like to see proof of that. Judging by the vehicles I see on the road here in Vegas I would say that Americas like America made vehicles just fine.
One more thing, if the unions care so much about the workingman then why are they pushing for an open vote? Why do they continue to go out and get more people to join the union when they don’t have the work for the people they currently have. And why when you tell a union organizer that you’re not interested they keep pushing and can be extremely rude. |
I dont come around here much anymore due to time constraints but I'll throw out three points just for you
1 - A lot of dairy outfits are union, hell even some of the guys who deliver milk [and many other vendors] to walmart are union. And you cant tell me that farmers aren't already well compensated...
2 - Ford and their union workforce seem to be weathering the storm quite well, due to their investment in small and midsize passenger vehicle cars, instead of investing in sinking ship companies like rover and hummer. They focus their truck sales on the still-functional "contractor" segment, instead of trying to sell Escalades to cash-strapped "new money" folks. Did anybody in this thread mention that toyota's non-union line employees in Georgetown, KY make $32/hour?
3 - A study was done a few years ago where researchers found that less than 20% of union certification votes end up in a contract agreement between the company and the employees, usually a result of the company firing
anybody who they suspect of not being anti-union, employer intimidation, and a plethora of other immoral tactics...
07.04.2009
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