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Old 02.18.2009
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When have unions backed other than Democrats? When have the Republicans ever been pro union? Paybacks are not soley a union sought for favor...now are they? Every voter expects something for their vote...whether it be in the form of a tax break or other incentive.


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Can you imagine if a corporate “special interest” came out and said they expected “payback” for their campaign contributions?! There’d be investigations. There’d be calls for resignations. Heck, there’d probably be indictments. But when the unions do it, no one seems to bat an eye.
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Can you imagine if a corporate “special interest” came out and said they expected “payback” for their campaign contributions?! There’d be investigations. There’d be calls for resignations. Heck, there’d probably be indictments. But when the unions do it, no one seems to bat an eye.
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The President said in his running for office, he supports card check. Why wouldn't union leaders expect him to follow through with what he said? It's not good to cry wolf when there isn't one.
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The President said in his running for office, he supports card check. Why wouldn't union leaders expect him to follow through with what he said? It's not good to cry wolf when there isn't one.
You poor guys. It's sad really.
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You poor guys. It's sad really.
Don't cry...be strong! I really need to read more on this card drive issue to be able to reply.
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"History is a great teacher. Now everyone knows that the labor movement did not diminish the strength of the nation but enlarged it. By raising the living standards of millions, labor miraculously created a market for industry and lifted the whole nation to undreamed of levels of production. Those who attack labor forget these simple truths, but history remembers them."
That's the problem with the current labor movement. They are stuck in the glory days of the past.

The only thing Union Labor does these days is increase tax rates along with prices and diminish services. Increased living standards" Your kidding right?

Whats the point of earning more if you have to spend more to get the same thing or less.

Look at the states with large Union workforces. They are freaking basket cases. This is not the 50's people. Competition is worldwide and with the help of greed from management and Unions and run away federal spending and corruption this country is 9 trillion and counting in the hole.

Increased living standards? My friends you are all living on borrowed money and if you think the first bubble burst was bad wait till you see the second. Places like Beverly hills will look like Detroit when the left is through redistributing the wealth to their pockets and the coffers of the state.

When the trillions that are being printed to pay off the unions and bankers come due. Who do you think gets to pay for their selfish greed?
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Card check, card check. Not all this misdirection. Card check. Red herrings, I'm starting to think some of you guys should take Glenn Becks job. 7% of private sector has representation. If the companys are square, then card check won't mean didilly. But if companys are cutting corners then card check means trouble for them. Square companys means unions won't get in.History teaches us that even when company hired goons and started thumpin heads, people still stood for in the open for better conditions. So if the union is going to hurt working conditions, workers will fight it openly. Now I know thugging it out on either side is not happening. Thats the 50's you were talking about. The laws need to be changed as tactics change. If you can't see it, your still living in the 50's. Another thing, Presidents can change every 4 years. Laws can change also. Our forefathers knew power would exchange hands. Your lack of patience of our American system is disturbing. Have more faith. Your time will come.
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Card check, card check. Not all this misdirection. Card check. Red herrings, I'm starting to think some of you guys should take Glenn Becks job. 7% of private sector has representation. If the companys are square, then card check won't mean didilly. But if companys are cutting corners then card check means trouble for them. Square companys means unions won't get in.History teaches us that even when company hired goons and started thumpin heads, people still stood for in the open for better conditions. So if the union is going to hurt working conditions, workers will fight it openly. Now I know thugging it out on either side is not happening. Thats the 50's you were talking about. The laws need to be changed as tactics change. If you can't see it, your still living in the 50's. Another thing, Presidents can change every 4 years. Laws can change also. Our forefathers knew power would exchange hands. Your lack of patience of our American system is disturbing. Have more faith. Your time will come.
Or, the company moves off-shore, and you're left with nothing. I work for myself.
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The ten most heavily unionized states saw 29.2% job growth and a 45.3% increase in GDP. The ten states with the lowest union concentration had substantially better economic performance: a 36% increase in private sector jobs and a 69.9% increase in GDP.




States that have allowed this freedom experienced tremendous growth as business move their operations to states that promote a friendly business environment.

Right to work states have had more than double the population growth of union shop states since 1990. The right to work states saw, on average, a 65.5% increase in GDP over the 16 year period while states with union shops laws only experienced an average of a 45% increase. The wages of workers in right to work states rose an average of 23% in right to work states while in union shop states average wages only rose 15%.
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Red herring. If people vote for unions the company will leave. Thats a red herring we are talking about card check. You are fearful of union votes and want others to be afraid also.
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