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Red herring. If people vote for unions the company will leave. Thats a red herring we are talking about card check. You are fearful of union votes and want others to be afraid also.
It's a fact.
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What does card check have to do with your numbers.
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What does card check have to do with your numbers.
More unions, fewer jobs.

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Low State Unemployment Rates / Dec 2008: Preliminary Figures
U.S. National Average¦ 7.2
State Rate Right To Work (see list below)
Wyoming ........ 3.4 Right To Work
North Dakota .... 3.5 Right To Work
South Dakota 3.9 Right To Work
Nebraska ...... 4.0 Right To Work
Utah .................4.3 Right To Work
Iowa .................4.6 Right To Work
New Hampshire 4.6
New Mexico 4.9
Oklahoma ......... 4.9 Right To Work
West Virginia ......4.9
Kansas .............. 5.2 Right To Work
Montana ............ 5.4
Virginia ...............5.4 Right To Work
Hawaii ................5.5
Maryland ............5.8
Louisiana ............ 5.9 Right To Work
Texas ................. 6.0 Right To Work
Colorado 6.1
Arkansas 6.2 Right To Work
Delaware 6.2
Wisconsin 6.2
Vermont 6.4
Idaho 6.4 Right To Work
Alabama 6.7 Right To Work
Pennsylvania 6.7
Arizona 6.9 Right To Work
Massachusetts 6.9
Minnesota 6.9
Maine 7.0
New York 7.0
Connecticut 7.1
New Jersey 7.1
Washington 7.1
Michigan 10.6

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So thats your reason people shouldn't have card check . OK I guess you don't have much faith in anyone voting his or hers own beliefs.
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So thats your reason people shouldn't have card check . OK I guess you don't have much faith in anyone voting his or hers own beliefs.
I would prefer every American has a job if he or she wants one. The facts I have presented show that more unions means fewer jobs.

If I am going to be asked to subsidize the unemployed, I'd prefer there are fewer of them.

Unions costs jobs, it's a fact.
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You've made it clear where you stand. I hope other people see it too.
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That's the problem with the current labor movement. They are stuck in the glory days of the past.

The only thing Union Labor does these days is increase tax rates along with prices and diminish services. Increased living standards" Your kidding right?

Whats the point of earning more if you have to spend more to get the same thing or less.

Look at the states with large Union workforces. They are freaking basket cases. This is not the 50's people. Competition is worldwide and with the help of greed from management and Unions and run away federal spending and corruption this country is 9 trillion and counting in the hole.

Increased living standards? My friends you are all living on borrowed money and if you think the first bubble burst was bad wait till you see the second. Places like Beverly hills will look like Detroit when the left is through redistributing the wealth to their pockets and the coffers of the state.

When the trillions that are being printed to pay off the unions and bankers come due. Who do you think gets to pay for their selfish greed?
It was the glory days of the 30's...not 50's...but do love your anti-union rant! I believe I could use your issues to sway a workforce to become union.
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Whats the point of earning more if you have to spend more to get the same thing or less.
I can only guess you are talking about the cost of living...truth being...we rarely are allowed to stay abreast with the cost of living index.

Quick...look up...the sky is falling!
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More unions, fewer jobs.
Ridiculous assumption...a whole lot more goes into an unemployment rate factor than unions...you might consider using some of your non union earned wages and educate yourself....love...Earl

* Forgot to mention how 10% of the workforce is responsible for 100% of the unemployment...
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Ridiculous assumption...a whole lot more goes into an unemployment rate factor than unions...you might consider using some of your non union earned wages and educate yourself....love...Earl

* Forgot to mention how 10% of the workforce is responsible for 100% of the unemployment...
You're right, I worded that wrong. What I meant to say is:
If you live in a right to work state, you are statically more likely to be employed than if you lived in a state with forced unionism.

My apologies.
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You're right, I worded that wrong. What I meant to say is:
If you live in a right to work state, you are statically more likely to be employed than if you lived in a state with forced unionism.

My apologies.
You are absolutely free to state what you like...God Bless America! Forced unionism...now that's a new twist. Test dummy forced to submit application of employment with known union workforce...Stay tuned for sequel...Test dummy found with Obama logo boxers...

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If you live in a right to work state, you are statically more likely to be employed than if you lived in a state with forced unionism.
Did I mention I live in Kansas, Right to Work state...and that effective MAR1 I will be unemployed...BTW...that's statistically messed up,
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