Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board - The Premier Truck Drivers Forum!  

Trucker MySpace - Truckers Making Friends. Chicken Truckers Come Meet Other Truckers!

Truck Trading Post - New Classified Ads Section! Post for Free, Sell Your Stuff Fast!




Go Back   Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board > Good & Bad Trucking Companies > Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board - The Premiere Truck Driver Forum

Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA news here. Are you a member of the Teamsters, OOIDA or another Organization involved with trucking or transportation? What are the good and bad sides to Unions? Discuss the finer points of Unions or Organizations here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  ^ Top   #1  
Old 03.26.2009
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 10.08.2009 11.09 AM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: kansas city, mo
Trucker? 20 Years
Age: 49
Posts: 25
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 18 Times
Lies corperate america has instiled into the working class.

Ok im starting this thread to dispell some of the myths of a UNION, and the BULL that corperate america has instiled into the working class.

#1. this is my favorite, " they gave me a job!". lol. i dont know how many times ive heard this one. unless your sitting at home, doing nothing, receving a pay check, no one is giving you anything! (and if you are, i want your job, lol)
heres how it works, a company has a opening, they look for the best qualified person to fill the position, period. no one hired you just because they were good ppl, or took pitty on you, or anything else, they hired you because you were the best person they could find to fill the spot they had open!

#2. the company is taking all of the risks. BULL! as a worker, you are a private contractor, you are selling your ability to preform a certin task(s), be it driving a truck, loading and unloading trucks, ect...... as a worker, you have a limited time span that you can work, be it 30, 40 years. when you apply for a job anywhere you are taking a risk that the company that you are applying for will manage it right, be profitable, provide you with a decent wage, safe working condetions, ect..... it's a partnership, they dont want you to know it, but it is. you are investing you WORKING LIFE SPAN into that company.

#3. if you dont like it you can leave. this is true but, what about the years of service you have invested into this company? you cant go back and recoop the time, its gone, forever!

ill post more later as we go along here.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to little d For This Useful Post:
Against The Wind (03.30.2009), Elvenhome21 (06.19.2009), seawind (06.16.2009), walleye (03.27.2009)
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #2  
Old 03.27.2009
MO family man's Avatar
Heavy Load Member
 
Last Seen: 1 Week Ago 10.25 PM
Member Since: Oct 2007
Location: Nunya, MO
Trucker? 9 Years
Age: 35
Posts: 934
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 8
Thanked: 142 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by little d View Post
Ok I'm starting this thread to dispel some of the myths of a UNION, and the BULL that corporate America has instilled into the working class.

#1. This is my favorite, " They gave me a job!". lol. I don't know how many times I've heard this one. Unless your sitting at home, doing nothing, receiving a pay check, no one is giving you anything! ( If you are, I want your job, lol) Heres how it works, a company has a opening, they look for the best qualified person to fill the position, period. No one hired you just because they were good people, or took pity on you, or anything else, they hired you because you were the best person they could find to fill the spot they had open!

#2. The company is taking all of the risks. BULL! As a worker, you are a private contractor. You are selling your ability to preform a certain task(s), be it driving a truck, loading and unloading trucks, ect... As a worker, you have a limited time span that you can work, be it 30, 40 years. When you apply for a job anywhere you are taking a risk that the company that you are applying to will manage it right, be profitable, provide you with a decent wage, safe working conditions, ect... It's a partnership, they don't want you to know it, but it is. You are investing you WORKING LIFE SPAN into that company.

#3. If you don't like it you can leave. This is true but, what about the years of service you have invested into this company? You can't go back and recoup the time, it's gone, forever!

I'll post more later as we go along here.
Go start a business then see if your perspective is still the same. Especially the nonsense you penned about risk.

Before you get bogged down in that task take a quick minute (Really it takes less than a minute) and download the spell checker. Doing so will help you have a touch more credibility than you are currently showing.

FYI...I took the liberty of cleaning up your writing in the quote.
__________________
Bad spellers of the world...UNTIE!!!



Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MO family man For This Useful Post:
Working Class Patriot (03.27.2009)
  ^ Top   #3  
Old 03.27.2009
roadkill439342's Avatar
Truck Forum Supporter
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Trucker? 15 Years
Age: 54
Posts: 9,570
My Trucking Photos: 99

Thanks: 1,345
Thanked: 2,601 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by little d View Post


#2. the company is taking all of the risks. BULL! as a worker, you are a private contractor, you are selling your ability to preform a certin task(s), be it driving a truck, loading and unloading trucks, ect...... as a worker, you have a limited time span that you can work, be it 30, 40 years. when you apply for a job anywhere you are taking a risk that the company that you are applying for will manage it right, be profitable, provide you with a decent wage, safe working condetions, ect..... it's a partnership, they dont want you to know it, but it is. you are investing you WORKING LIFE SPAN into that company.
What risk does the worker take?
Does he invest wealth and capitol on the chance that his investment will pay off?
As a worker, it is NOT your gamble the company will turn out profitable, you didn't invest anything, except perhaps your time (for which you were paid).
The Company isn't obligated to provide you with a decent wage. Their only obligation is to provide a profit for their shareholders.

Just like any "investor", if your investment doesn't seem to be paying off, you are free to put your capitol elsewhere; i.e. find another job.
__________________
Resistance Is Futile


As the Statist is building a culture of conformity and dependency, where the ideal citizen takes on drone-like qualities in service to the state, the individual must be drained of uniqueness and self-worth and deterred from independent thought or behavior. This is acheived through varying methods of economic punishment and political suppression.


Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to roadkill439342 For This Useful Post:
Working Class Patriot (03.27.2009)
  ^ Top   #4  
Old 03.27.2009
Working Class Patriot's Avatar
"In Tune"
 
Last Seen: 16 Hours Ago 03.19 PM
Member Since: Jan 2008
Location: Parked in front of Mary Nichols' house....Idling like there's no tomorrow....
Trucker? Trucking Industry
Posts: 15,875
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 6,613
Thanked: 4,962 Times
Geezus....another lib to contend with.....I'd like to take this one on right now, but I actually work for a living (unlike 90% of the libs) and after going 600 miles today...I'm too tired to even debate another lib......maybe tomorrow.....
__________________






A Patriot's Dream Come True.......Beauty, Brains, And Conservative......

Obama and Company: Step aside and let the adults take Charge.......Playtime is over.....
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Working Class Patriot For This Useful Post:
roadkill439342 (03.27.2009)
  ^ Top   #5  
Old 03.27.2009
roadkill439342's Avatar
Truck Forum Supporter
 
Member Since: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Trucker? 15 Years
Age: 54
Posts: 9,570
My Trucking Photos: 99

Thanks: 1,345
Thanked: 2,601 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron-MARS Trucking View Post
Geezus....another lib to contend with.....I'd like to take this one on right now, but I actually work for a living (unlike 90% of the libs) and after going 600 miles today...I'm too tired to even debate another lib......maybe tomorrow.....
I know what you mean. I am home right now but have been spending time focusing on setting up my home-made desktop.
__________________
Resistance Is Futile


As the Statist is building a culture of conformity and dependency, where the ideal citizen takes on drone-like qualities in service to the state, the individual must be drained of uniqueness and self-worth and deterred from independent thought or behavior. This is acheived through varying methods of economic punishment and political suppression.


Reply With Quote
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #6  
Old 03.28.2009
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 1 Day Ago 05.06 AM
Member Since: Feb 2009
Location: Spindale, NC
Trucker? 46 Years
Posts: 64
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 35 Times
If anyone cares to really understand corporations, several years ago a book titled, "TRYANNY OF THE BOTTOM LINE", came out. This book was written by Mr. Ralph Estes a business professor at American Unv. in Washington, DC. It will open your eyes to the world of business.

Employees become "shareholders" in a company by their time and efforts. But the sad part of the business world, they are only concerned with the "stockholders".

For 5 years, I was a CEO's "little boy", I drove his million dollars motor coach, I cooked for him, I ran errands for him, I did whatever the man told me to do. During these 5 years, I saw the inside of the business world and witnessed exactly what value a company actually puts on an employee.

Read 'TRYANNY OF THE BOTTOM LINE", you will get "born-again"!!!!
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Grouch For This Useful Post:
seawind (06.16.2009)
  ^ Top   #7  
Old 03.28.2009
Medium Load Member
 
Last Seen: 1 Week Ago 10.54 AM
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: lost in space
Trucker? 10 Years
Age: 52
Posts: 339
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 77 Times
A stockholder has invested money into a business,most businesses wouldnt survive without stockholders investments.So is it wrong for them to expect to make money on their investments?If corporations are so bad start working for yourself and see just how easy running a company is,I do it because Im a glutton for punishment.I want everyone who works for me to feel like a shareholder, it gives them a feel of company ownership,if they dont care they wont be working for me long.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to junkyardhound For This Useful Post:
Working Class Patriot (03.28.2009)
  ^ Top   #8  
Old 03.28.2009
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 10.08.2009 11.09 AM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: kansas city, mo
Trucker? 20 Years
Age: 49
Posts: 25
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 18 Times
a liberal, lol,all right guys, think about this. it doesn't matter if you have a IQ of Albert Einstein, or more money then Donald trump, if you have a business of any size you need employees, these are the ppl that are making you money. just like stock holders that invest money into your business, they are investing there "working life span" into your business. yes they are getting paid for there "knowledge" or ability to preform a certain task, just like a share holder gets paid to invest money into your company. the employees are just as much a "partner" in your business as a share holder!

p.s. i have never said that corporations are bad, we need them in this world, and just like we need them, they need employees, its a partnership thing.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #9  
Old 03.28.2009
Bobtail Member
 
Last Seen: 10.08.2009 11.09 AM
Member Since: Mar 2009
Location: kansas city, mo
Trucker? 20 Years
Age: 49
Posts: 25
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 18 Times
i know its off topic but i gotta ask, why is it if you challenge someone's thought process you become a liberal? actually, I'm a moderate.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #10  
Old 03.28.2009
Working Class Patriot's Avatar
"In Tune"
 
Last Seen: 16 Hours Ago 03.19 PM
Member Since: Jan 2008
Location: Parked in front of Mary Nichols' house....Idling like there's no tomorrow....
Trucker? Trucking Industry
Posts: 15,875
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 6,613
Thanked: 4,962 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grouch View Post
If anyone cares to really understand corporations, several years ago a book titled, "TRYANNY OF THE BOTTOM LINE", came out. This book was written by Mr. Ralph Estes a business professor at American Unv. in Washington, DC. It will open your eyes to the world of business.

Employees become "shareholders" in a company by their time and efforts. But the sad part of the business world, they are only concerned with the "stockholders".

For 5 years, I was a CEO's "little boy", I drove his million dollars motor coach, I cooked for him, I ran errands for him, I did whatever the man told me to do. During these 5 years, I saw the inside of the business world and witnessed exactly what value a company actually puts on an employee.

Read 'TRYANNY OF THE BOTTOM LINE", you will get "born-again"!!!!
That's just one man...
What about another man who not only created wealth for himself but, inspired his employees to become rich.....Bill Gates...How many millionaires does MicroSoft have??????


Again...liberal inspired Class Warfare and Class Envy raises its ugly head....

Get over it people...if you're tired of living in a single-wide or living in an apartment, it's up to you to improve your lot in life. Not the government's, not your boss's and certainly, it's not the job of the taxpayers to give you your life.
__________________






A Patriot's Dream Come True.......Beauty, Brains, And Conservative......

Obama and Company: Step aside and let the adults take Charge.......Playtime is over.....
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Working Class Patriot For This Useful Post:
roadkill439342 (03.30.2009), truckermario (06.18.2009)
Reply

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Trucker Forum Replies Last Post
April 23rd boycott for American truckers. Connecticut_Patriot Politics 55 03.28.2009 06.44 PM
Road Safe America Founder lies about accident RickG Trucking Accident Reports 10 10.02.2008 07.26 AM
America reality check/Turned political Doc.Tripp1977 Politics 63 04.09.2008 03.47 AM
Pondering Middle Class in America interesting Baack A Discussion About EVERYTHING 0 01.29.2008 07.46 PM
Bush Get Away with Lies, Lies and More Lies in History - Illiterate America Trucker.W Politics 30 10.09.2007 01.26 AM


.


vBulletin Forum Software, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © TheTruckersReport.com - Trucking Forum & Message Board - Truck Driver Discussion - Truck Forum

Trucker Forum Disclaimer: All content, information and opinions (collectively, the "Material") presented on Our Trucker Forum Discussion Board at TheTruckersReport.com are those of the authors of posts and messages (collectively, the "participants") and not The Truckers Report. The Truckers Report does not guarantee the reliability, completeness, accuracy, timeliness or up-to-date-ness of the material presented on the Truck Driver Forum. The material is published "as is," and does not represent the official views and opinions of The Truckers Report or any company. Any reliance upon the Material presented on these forums shall be at User's own risk. The Truckers Report does not review the substance of the content posted by users on these forums and is therefore not responsible for any of such content. The Truckers Forum merely provides a space for its users to express and exchange their own opinions. Privacy Statement.


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO