Unions helped get child labor laws. 40 hour work week, benefits etc.

If employers in the past had treated their people right? We would'nt be having this discussion.

Again I am referring to my personal experience with a union. Never said unions haven't done anything good.

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Say Wal-Mart employees were to say they are going Union. Wal-Mart threatens or does shut down that store(s). All the other stores go out on strike to support the one(s) that got shut down because of going union. Where would that leave Wal-Mart? The thing about Unions is that they are supposed to bring Solidarity within the ranks. What one store does, the rest do also. That is the only way I see that the Union can flex it's might (All for one, One for all). What I see happening is that if one store says one thing, then another will say something else, and the people making the killing is playing everyone against the other, creating decent in the ranks, and using fear of job-loss as a weapon. The Union boss's just sit back, try to sort through the mess, find a common ground that everyone can stand on then do nothing. Yes, Unions have done a lot of good way back when. Now all we see is fat cats getting fatter in the Unions, employees getting abused (in the trucking sector also), and jobs going overseas faster than ever (bringing in the Non-American drivers). Isn't the Unions supposed to protect ALL American Workers Rights? What's the answer here folks? If everyone had a clear idea of how something is supposed to work, get everyone else to stand behind it, implement the program, and we all might stand a fighting chance of being treated fairly by everone else. As of right now though, the Working Class is too fractured to do that, Unionized or Not. Money, and only Money, is what makes this country go. No Money, No go. We have a beast that is just starting to get woke up in our Government. It is throwing money it doesn't have at everything thinkig it will solve all our problems but it is only fueling a larger beast (the rest of the world) and allowing others to dictate what we can or can not do. Clkearly, if we can get all the truck drivers to stand together, we may get a fair shake but just try getting that to happen.

Here's an idea. Why don't more people NOT make minimum wage jobs their choice of employment.

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I live in a small town. Just about everyone here hires at minnimum wage. I worked at Walmart before, they will never get unionized. I alos don't see the union helping any, at least not money wise. Kroger is unioned and they pay less than Walmart. To get a better paying job you will have to travel to the city and depending on where you live, that will be traveling 30 miles or more. So getting paid above minnimum wage would only pay for the extra gas you burn traveling to work and home, plus if you have kids the extra babysitting time.

As far as truckers sticking together and striking or trying to make change. You have too many guys that are willing to jump in their truck at any price and companies that are willing to put anybody in an empty truck, just so the owner of the companies get money in their pockets. At the company my husband works, if he refused a load, you have at least 7 other drivers that will take his load for less than he gets paid. This company also gets applications on a daily basis that they could hire from to replace him.

If you can convince companies that they would make more money if they go along with a strike, it might work.

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I get torn when it comes unions.
Sometimes unions can be a good thing and sometimes they can be a bad thing. As for Walmart, Here in NC they pay $8.25 unless you get 3rd shift then it goes up to $8.40. My wife used to work there and my niece works there now. You WILL work for your money!

As for the argument "Find a better job" That's great advice but not always possible.
On a brighter note....
They will let you park your RV in the lot over night. They only ask that you not feed the minimum wage employee's.

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If Wal Mart is the "only game in town", then folks either work there, and put up with the BS, or don't have a job.

If the only job you are qualified for is to stock shelves or push product over a scanner, then you really don't have much leverage.

As far as allowing campers overnight, more and more are not allowing them, let alone jacking over the trucks with all the funky islands they put in the entrances to keep big rigs out.

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I worked for Publix for 3.5 years. Non union job got started out # 5.75hr as my first job. I worked there for 3 years topping out # 7.25 as a cashier. I did everything that they asked me to do and still got made fun of by management, sucked up to them and did my job. In the end, I quit because of working conditions. Nearly all of them are the same in Brevard county and they are no better than Walmart.

All these chains are the same or are similar; They will pay for your college through grants as long you are there for 6 months or more, give you stock in the company after six months, and they all have cook outs. Publix does not give you a discount, they are non union.

If unions existed in supermarkets, they would not have a high turnover rate. do not believe me? Then ask the managers what their turnover rate is and who would they prefer to hire; a college student for less or or someone experienced making more. with this economy you can fire three experienced people and hire five new people for the same cost. The phrase" Are you trainable" makes a difference. Ask the managers what would happen if unions came in to non union companies like publix, winn dixie.

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old news as far as i'm concerned. they've been trying for YEARS; probably at least a decade now.

Years ago, my daddy pounded it into me to learn a skill, learn how to do something that very few people were able or willing to do, and THEN and only then would you start making real money. As long as you insist on doing jobs that they could train a monkey to do in 30 minutes, you were destined to make minimum wage.
I've had union jobs before, I am a former UAW member. When I needed them most, fighting for them in a strike they provoked, they abandoned me. When the strike was over, the plant was filled with replacements and former members who crossed the line, I was left with no job and a union who demanded every penny of the strike pay they gave me back. A lousy $100 a week for a year. They wanted $5 grand. Even turned it over to a collection agency. All because I went to unemployment and won after a year long string of hearings. I had one year worth of back pay on the unemployment checks, and the UAW took most of it. They aren't about anything but making money. Period. When our contract was up, the union man showed up in his shiny brand new white Cadillac, called us into a meeting, gave us a big pep talk about how we were going to strike. Convinced a majority to vote that way, then they handed us "ON STRIKE" signs stood out there with us on the first day, then we pretty much never heard from them again. Eight years of collecting dues from me, I got nothing for it. No more unions for me, thank you.