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kajidono · **^ Top** #21 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

I call BS here. If the computer was so vital, it would have been on an ups system to prevent problems as this.

UPS system was in the server room, computer was out near the line. The bosses that had it set up that way were not too bright. The head manager for the IT dept there once tried to swap a hard drive from one machine to another by taking the drive itself apart.

Baack · **^ Top** #22 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

Think a little harder here.

WHO MAKES THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE UNIONS?

You see thats where the problem stands
Unions blackmail profitable companies into agreeing to rates that are not realistic in the long run
If the company doesn't agree the union goes on strike
Now tell me who is in control?

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #23 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Baack

You see thats where the problem stands
Unions blackmail profitable companies into agreeing to rates that are not realistic in the long run
If the company doesn't agree the union goes on strike
Now tell me who is in control?

I am not supporting the union.

I am just stating that the management is just as guilty. They do not have to sign the document.

In addition, the management also made many decisions as to pay and bonues that were not in the best interest of the company. If they were, the company would have been in a better position toward the bankruptcy issue.

To be putting the entire blame on a union is just an easy way of finding fault.

Baack · **^ Top** #24 2 Weeks Ago

I agree.
In theory

The difference now is management realizes there is a problem
And the unions are not willing to help
In the real world you work you get paid
In the union world there seems to be a feeling of entitlement
"We've earned the right"
Heck you guys make twice the normal pay
It would be different if they worked for half the pay for a promise of future income
But that just isn't the case

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

I am not supporting the union.

I am just stating that the management is just as guilty. They do not have to sign the document.

In addition, the management also made many decisions as to pay and bonues that were not in the best interest of the company. If they were, the company would have been in a better position toward the bankruptcy issue.

To be putting the entire blame on a union is just an easy way of finding fault.

Mooney · **^ Top** #25 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by walleye

I think the blame for all of the auto makers problems stem from bad management,.......The hardworking men and women an the line don't make the big decisions,....

But they assemble a crappy product, so are just as much to blame.

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #26 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by kajidono

UPS system was in the server room, computer was out near the line. The bosses that had it set up that way were not too bright. The head manager for the IT dept there once tried to swap a hard drive from one machine to another by taking the drive itself apart.

Then in my opinion, they got what they deserved. The item could have been unplugged for many situations totally innocent of wrong doing or rule breaking.

I do not agree that the union guy should have breached it for a cell phone, but if you looked, you would find office and management doing the same.

Baack · **^ Top** #27 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Mooney

But they assemble a crappy product, so are just as much to blame.

My x father in law worked at Chrysler
He use to tell me how easy the Job's were
His last job before retiring at 55 was a breeze
He could leave his part of the line for 45 minutes and come back and catch up in 15
He said there were even easier ones than his

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #28 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Baack

My x father in law worked at Chrysler
He use to tell me how easy the Job's were
His last job before retiring at 55 was a breeze
He could leave his part of the line for 45 minutes and come back and catch up in 15
He said there were even easier ones than his

I am sure there are many others in that union.

ChromeDome · **^ Top** #29 2 Weeks Ago

I have a feeling the workers just slit there own necks.
It is too bad really. Ford has been making the highest quality cars and trucks in this country for the last few years (in my openion).
They are the only one that had the balls to say no to the governments money.
They are facing an up hill battle as it is, working against companys with government backed warrentees.

These workers may pull the final straw that causes ford to fail in the future, and for them all to loose jobs. And they will have nobody to blame but there own greedy selves.

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #30 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by ChromeDome

I have a feeling the workers just slit there own necks.
It is too bad really. Ford has been making the highest quality cars and trucks in this country for the last few years (in my openion).
They are the only one that had the balls to say no to the governments money.
They are facing an up hill battle as it is, working against companys with government backed warrentees.

These workers may pull the final straw that causes ford to fail in the future, and for them all to loose jobs. And they will have nobody to blame but there own greedy selves.

Great vehicles.
Love the product. Hate the engines.

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