Branching off from another thread in here.

I just now found out that there are such things are topless/bikini clad/sexy truck detail operations for truckers out there.

I was wondering if your s/o used these detailers would you consider it cheating? Or just entertainment?

I assume that these sexy detailing operations have a 'look but don't touch' policy but it has also been insinuated that the employees here will let you touch for the right price.

Where does entertaining cross the line into cheating? What about strip clubs, dirty phone chat lines, porno websites/videos? What about talking/texting to an ex - even if nothing physical has taken place.

Is holding hands with anyone else but your s/o off limits? Is only one kiss outside of the relationship one too many? Is it not cheating unless it's full blown intercourse?

How far is too far?

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Where are these truck wash establishments, I think this requires further investigation.

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I wouldn't consider it cheating to go to anything topless. It's just entertainment. Now if you tell your SO it bothers you and they continue it, maybe it's best to move on.

I have to text/ call my ex because there is a child involved. It bothers my g/f but I think it is more her insecurity that she thinks I will go back to her. Took her a while but I think she gets that that is over now. The weird thing is, she has to call her ex about her kids and it doesn't bother me. I get it.

Holding hands and kissing is definately off limits. I do PDA with my girlfriend only. Now I flirt by nature but my g/f understands it's just being friendly, nothing intended by it.

As for porn, hey trucking is a lonely job. Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands! I would much rather look at pics of my g/f, but if your SO is not willing to go there, what else do you have? Men are very visual animals. Women are more mental creatures. And I don't mean that in a bad way.

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I think each person and couple has to answer this for themself. I know what I believe and what my husband believes. Our choices are tied to our faith. But my opinion isn't going necessarily fit your lifestyle.

Often people only see physical acts as being unfaithful but we see the mental and emotional acts as far damaging. Thus friendships with the opposite gender need to be watched to make sure the relationship doesn't come between husband and wife. But as for the physical: Why would I hold another man's hand if there weren't emotions there? My body, my sexuality belongs to my husband....I gave it covenant when we married. He gave his to me as well.

I know that compared to much of society our views are very strict......but it's worked quite well for us for 27 very happy and loving years.

BTW Nana, I love the new signature line!!

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I don't see a problem in looking. I catch my hubby looking sometimes which doesn't bother me. I see it as eye candy. Touching I wouldn't agree with at all. Me and rick are friends with my last ex hubby. The ex calls rick as much as he calls me and Rick isn't worried about it because he know the past with the ex and knows neither want the other back. Guess I'm lucky Rick wants me to clean the truck he is to tight to take it anywhere and pay for it to be cleaned.

Yeah but do you gove him a "show" while you are cleaning it?!

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I've never heard of such a place.

Yes it is both cheating and unavoidable. People and relationships suck.

If you don't like him looking, then even if he doesn't out of respect then you'd be equally irked just that he wants to.

He either does, or doesn't out of fear... of losing something, of his salvation, or of his own poor self-esteem in the presence of women, but all fears nonetheless. The upside is professing that out loud as high moral fiber, generally at the top of his lungs when lucky enough to come up in conversation.

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Oh! I forgot to address the issue of ex spouses and significant others.

I married my husband knowing full well that he had an ex wife and two daughters. One of the things I respected about my husband is that he didn't "divorce" his kids. They were important to him as they should be. I decided to make it part of my job as his wife to make sure I did everything possible to make things smooth between he, myself and his ex wife.

It didn't work. His ex was a psycho. Seriously. Evidently a couple of years after their divorce she had a mental break down. She would call me and tell me all sorts of things. I learned to make sure he and I told each other everything in honesty so that she nor anyone could come between us. Honesty and trust go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other in my opinion.

The other thing I did was to not look at the situation as "his" but as "ours" she was our ex wife, they're our children.

To be blunt.....I made sure I was the loving "good" one. LOL And it worked. I am the woman he loves and respects, the woman he knows will do whatever is needed in his life. His daughters love me, I am their mom. period. I was the one wanted at the wedding, the birth of children, I am the one they count on and love.

Well if hardly anyone knows the topless detailers then the must be rare and I don't have to worry about my bf going to those. ALthough I don't think he would but I don't know about his skeezy trainer. BUT bf said the trainer keeps the truck filthy so I guess he doesn't visit a detailer of any kind.

I don't mind strip clubs and porno - it all seems like fantasy, not reality.

But I don't like the close setting of a topless woman in a truck with the bf alone. Just the same as I don't like him to have lap dances either. Too close for comfort - I don't think he'll *do* anything it's just ... ew. I know the strippers, lot lizards etc. are people too but my first reaction is to think negatively of them.

Of course the bf has been to strip clubs with groups of friends and he did get a lap dance at a bach party once (paid for by a friend) but it in a group setting what can you do? Boys will be boys. He did tell me he got one but didn't give me the details - I was fine with that!

Holding hands, kissing, anything further physically all off limits. We've both been cheated on before and been heartbroken and wouldn't put eachother through that.

We've also discussed that if we saw an ex on the street we wouldn't completely ignore them but we don't reach out to talk or text them for any reason.

I wouldn't want him doing dirty phone chats either - can't put my finger on why but I find it much more intimate than even watching a girl on a stage.

Oh and Nana I love your sig too. I don't fully understand it (it's none of my business anyway) but it's so perfectly worded!

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suppress your s/o's need to see something, and make it tantamount to cheating and he might as well just screw a girl.

Men love to look, and as long as it only goes that far, it is ok. It is when it crosses the line to touching, or starts putting finances in danger that it is a problem.

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