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Many TAs here on the east coast have a trailer with a chapel and regularly scheduled services. I'm very happy to see many more chapels than strip clubs around the truck stops these days. It seems the days of lot lizards and boobie bars are fading.
No! They have never faded since the beginning of time. They just move to new locations.

As far as Chapels, I think they should be available for those who seek a little soul time. However, like mentioned by another, the CB Radio is not the place to look for souls as the majority don't and won't participate.

Should they? Perhaps! At least, we all need a little meditation time to shut out our daily lives and go within to search for truth in life. A little more thinking could cause an epidemic in better decision making.

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You follow a book written by man, but claim its written by god. I follow a book that we all know is written by man, but know that things change and its not a strict set of rules. So enjoy your 10 commandments, we have over 500.

Who claims it was writen by God? God did not write it. He used His choice to get the word out. Man. I do not know why God chose man, but He has. He has always used man to accomplish His work. Seems kind of odd that the Jews were God's favorites, but yet they were always looking for ways to crucify His Son.
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You talk about you have over 500 commandments and scoff at the 10. Why is it that? Can you keep all 500? There is only one way man can reconcile with God. As I have said before; I am not counting on my good works to get me in heaven. I could not or would not be able to even try. I am saved by Grace and not of myself.
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I wish you could see how you skip over things that are right. Yes Thursday is named after Thor. Now we are going by YOUR religion, you are not French or German. American Christianity is based upon the Church of England, you know the church founded when the pope wouldn't let a king divorce. Which also uses a bible written by a KING. Because we all know kings are good people and would never want to hang onto their power for as long as possible. I am going to try facts, and logic again but I doubt it will work.
Fact: American Christianity is not based upon the Church of England. Millions of Lutherans, Amish, Mennonites, Presbyterians, Baptists and Catholics will disagree with you, and those are just the easy one's to identify. Only the Episcopalean Church (aka Anglican Church) is directly based on the Church of England. The Lutherans, Amish, and Mennonites are all Continental Protestant Churches, and the Catholics, well, where do you think the Church of England came from? King Henry the VIII didn't make the CoE up outta nothing.

Fact: The King James Bible wasn't written by a king. It was written the same way most of the Bible translations today are written, by a committee of biblical scholars working from the best texts available at the time. The KJV committee was commissioned by King James in order to produce a Bible that, by gosh by golly, was in the common language. After all, not a whole lot of Englishmen in the early 17th century read Latin.

Fact: My point, which you apparently missed, is that the names of the days we use are derived from our root languages, not Christianity. English is a Germanic language, very heavily influenced (for the better) by French, which is one of the Romantic languages. The names of the days in each family are pretty much all derived from the same roots, which for the Germanic and Romantic languages, as well as Japanese and Korean, Tagalog, Sanskrit and Hindi, Thai, and more, it is the "Ruling Luminaries", aka the heavenly bodies, i.e. the sun, moon, and planets. Thus, for the Germanic languages, Friday is generally derived from the Norse goddess Freya, counterpart to the Roman goddess Venus. In German: Freitag. English: Friday, fredag in Swedish, Norwegian and Danish. In French: Vendedri. In Japanese, Korean and Tibetan: the Day of the Planet of Metal (Venus). These are all considered to be "astronomically based" day names.

In contrast, Russians, including the Orthodox Christians amongst them (and, my guess would be, the rest of the Slavic languages) name all the days by their number. This is an artifact of Christianity, as many early Christians were uncomfortable with the names derived from planets which were named after pagan gods, and so attempted to rename things. However, the naming conventions were pretty deeply rooted by the time Christianity was culturally ascendant, and the renaming attempt had mixed success. Numerically based naming is used in a number of other languages as well, including Hebrew, Arabic, Greek, Mandarin Chinese and Vietnamese.

Oh, and it may uplift you to know that the official word used in German for Saturday, Samstag? Derives from the Hebrew word "Shabbat". Quite a few other languages also root "saturday" in "Shabbat."

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And the way you keep talking, and wanting to convince me so much that you are right,
TJGOSURF, I'm not attempting to convince you that I'm right. I'm simply striving to correct factual errors on your part. Mind you, not theological errors regarding the divinity of Christ, or the existence of Christ, or whether or not Christ is the Jewish Messiah, or his birthdate, nor how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. No, I've much simpler subjects to tackle. When your facts are wrong, then the conclusions you draw from them are likely to be wrong.

The history lesson is done.

Respectfully, BD
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Fact: American Christianity is not based upon the Church of England. Millions of Lutherans, Amish, Mennonites, Presbyterians, Baptists and Catholics will disagree with you, and those are just the easy one's to identify. Only the Episcopalean Church (aka Anglican Church) is directly based on the Church of England. The Lutherans, Amish, and Mennonites are all Continental Protestant Churches, and the Catholics, well, where do you think the Church of England came from? King Henry the VIII didn't make the CoE up outta nothing.

Fact: The King James Bible wasn't written by a king. It was written the same way most of the Bible translations today are written, by a committee of biblical scholars working from the best texts available at the time. The KJV committee was commissioned by King James in order to produce a Bible that, by gosh by golly, was in the common language. After all, not a whole lot of Englishmen in the early 17th century read Latin.

Fact: My point, which you apparently missed, is that the names of the days we use are derived from our root languages, not Christianity. English is a Germanic language, very heavily influenced (for the better) by French, which is one of the Romantic languages. The names of the days in each family are pretty much all derived from the same roots, which for the Germanic and Romantic languages, as well as Japanese and Korean, Tagalog, Sanskrit and Hindi, Thai, and more, it is the "Ruling Luminaries", aka the heavenly bodies, i.e. the sun, moon, and planets. Thus, for the Germanic languages, Friday is generally derived from the Norse goddess Freya, counterpart to the Roman goddess Venus. In German: Freitag. English: Friday, fredag in Swedish, Norwegian and Danish. In French: Vendedri. In Japanese, Korean and Tibetan: the Day of the Planet of Metal (Venus). These are all considered to be "astronomically based" day names.

In contrast, Russians, including the Orthodox Christians amongst them (and, my guess would be, the rest of the Slavic languages) name all the days by their number. This is an artifact of Christianity, as many early Christians were uncomfortable with the names derived from planets which were named after pagan gods, and so attempted to rename things. However, the naming conventions were pretty deeply rooted by the time Christianity was culturally ascendant, and the renaming attempt had mixed success. Numerically based naming is used in a number of other languages as well, including Hebrew, Arabic, Greek, Mandarin Chinese and Vietnamese.

Oh, and it may uplift you to know that the official word used in German for Saturday, Samstag? Derives from the Hebrew word "Shabbat". Quite a few other languages also root "saturday" in "Shabbat."


TJGOSURF, I'm not attempting to convince you that I'm right. I'm simply striving to correct factual errors on your part. Mind you, not theological errors regarding the divinity of Christ, or the existence of Christ, or whether or not Christ is the Jewish Messiah, or his birthdate, nor how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. No, I've much simpler subjects to tackle. When your facts are wrong, then the conclusions you draw from them are likely to be wrong.

The history lesson is done.

Respectfully, BD
Great History Lesson. Brings back many items I had forgotten in my travels and readings. However, I have never studied Theology and I have not followed the churches as I have felt far too much in disagreement. However, I have nothing against knowledge and understanding as related to the history of mankind because it is our history.

I love to write on many subjects. Usually short poems that express some part of history relating to a part of the world I have visited.

Here is one from Korea:

Through the Portals of Time

To the Korean People

Copyright © 2006, Michael Duane Small

Far from this Galaxy, some where out there,
Amongst the billions of stars night skies share,
T'is not known from whence they come,
But 25,000 BC their journey was done.

Great King Hwanin has summoned his son
For a journey to the third planet of a distant sun!
With 20,000 followers you must preside,
Go Hwanung, claim your throne with a solar tide.

Along the Sanguri River basin it is said,
Hwanung, took an Earth woman to wed.
And beneath the Sandalwood tree
Consummated the first human king to be!

Born of a Galactic King and Earth mother
Tangun Wanggum to sit a throne as no other!
In a time so distant, Earth closed this page,
Yet history has not forgotten this early age!

From the Sanguri River Basin a story is told,
About an age, humans consider old,
And yet in time it matters not,
Because eternity is keeper of the clock!

By Zephyr


Author's Comments:
"Is it just a story or could it be true. Myths and legends transcend time and we know many are based with some fact and they represent human life of anther time.
The Sanguri River basin is located in North Korea, close to Mongolia. Legend has it Hwanung was approached by a bear and a tiger who pleaded to become human. Hwanung's promise to be kept if they would go into a cave and remain there for three months without seeing the sun. The tiger could not remain in the cave, but the bear appeared at three months and for doing so was transformed into a beautiful human female.
Hwanung fell in love with her and as the legend goes, she gave birth to the first human king.
/ /---King = Wang . . . . . .Tangun, son of Hawanin, the Sun God.
History-Tangun Wanggum-The Bear Totem Family Old Choson --------
Paleolithic man began to inhabit the Korean peninsula some 40,000 to 50,000 years before this time. --------
Neolithic Man: The making of stone tools and the use of pottery appeared in Korea around 4000 BC.
The 4th Centur BC-the evolution of the old society-Walled City States:
Puyo in the Sungari river basin,
Yemaek - middle reaches of the Yalu;
Old Choson in the basins of the Liao and Taedong Rivers;
Imdun in the Hamhung plain - NE seacoast and
Chinbon in the regions of the Hwanghae province. --------South of the Han River, (the Han River Basin of now, South Korea) -the state of Chin emerged, 2333 BC through 194 BC –
Well known in China. The region had been developing since the time of Adam and Eve."
**Note. The State of Chin refers to the Korean history and has nothing in common with history from China and the Chin Dynasty there.
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That would be one way to stop all the door knocking in the middle of the night! Of course it would have to be legalized, policed medically and taxed!
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I voted no because it was the best option i could find, i don't fall into the category of I'm not religious so a church wouldn't bother me, i don't Mind if there is a church/chapel at the Truck Stops,

What Bothers Me the Most is when Those People Bug the crap out of me begging me to go to their service, I personally am Agnostic, and my wife is Wiccan, we do our own thing and believe in our own way that works for us but its really annoying to have people bug me about it and epically on Sunday morning when i just wake up and decide i want to get some breakfast i don't wanna be bothered with this stuff... Im glad its there for those that need it/want it but its really annoying when the pastors are Aggressive its not my cup of tea leave me be..
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I voted no because it was the best option i could find, i don't fall into the category of I'm not religious so a church wouldn't bother me, i don't Mind if there is a church/chapel at the Truck Stops,

What Bothers Me the Most is when Those People Bug the crap out of me begging me to go to their service, I personally am Agnostic, and my wife is Wiccan, we do our own thing and believe in our own way that works for us but its really annoying to have people bug me about it and epically on Sunday morning when i just wake up and decide i want to get some breakfast i don't wanna be bothered with this stuff... Im glad its there for those that need it/want it but its really annoying when the pastors are Aggressive its not my cup of tea leave me be..
This is the reason for all the complaints against members of Churches today and why they are being restricted in public places. Far too many people do not want to be approached with what they consider fairy tails, cults, and history based upon the controlling factors of the various churches.

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Pagan's were normal people who encountered the religious and because the did not believe as the religious were call Pagan in a derogatory way. Pegan's, still remained good people for the most part and lived as they chose.

Much from the Pagan's was adopted by Christianity including "Christmas" or the practice of gifting; now referred improperly as Christs birthday and the explanation of Christmas as Christ - mas.

I see nothing wrong with people believing as they wish, but they need to be mindful and respectful of others rights to believe as they chose.

There is a saying that was formulated to sum up the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. of the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. religion [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . The most common form of the rede is An it harm none, do what ye will. "Rede" is a word from [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. meaning "advice" or "counsel." "An" is an archaic contraction of the word "and," meaning "if," as in the Shakespearean "an it please thee." Other variants include:
An it harm none, do as thou wiltDo what you will, so long as it harms none An it harm none, do what thou will That it harm none, do as thou wilt Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill, / An it harm none do what ye will. Pagan history is very colorful. Symbols are now part of Christianity as they were adopted, so if Paganism was so bad, then why the adaptation?
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This is the reason for all the complaints against members of Churches today and why they are being restricted in public places. Far too many people do not want to be approached with what they consider fairy tails, cults, and history based upon the controlling factors of the various churches.

Wiccan Rede
Pagan's were normal people who encountered the religious and because the did not believe as the religious were call Pagan in a derogatory way. Pegan's, still remained good people for the most part and lived as they chose.

Much from the Pagan's was adopted by Christianity including "Christmas" or the practice of gifting; now referred improperly as Christs birthday and the explanation of Christmas as Christ - mas.

I see nothing wrong with people believing as they wish, but they need to be mindful and respectful of others rights to believe as they chose.

There is a saying that was formulated to sum up the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. of the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. religion [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . The most common form of the rede is An it harm none, do what ye will. "Rede" is a word from [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. meaning "advice" or "counsel." "An" is an archaic contraction of the word "and," meaning "if," as in the Shakespearean "an it please thee." Other variants include:
An it harm none, do as thou wiltDo what you will, so long as it harms none An it harm none, do what thou will That it harm none, do as thou wilt Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill, / An it harm none do what ye will. Pagan history is very colorful. Symbols are now part of Christianity as they were adopted, so if Paganism was so bad, then why the adaptation?
..that's why God gave us 'free will!' To 'voluntarily fellowship' with him or just do 'our own thing'...and, go 'our own way'....which ends up being....
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