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Just to clarify for the know it alls....who dont know anything. The meat at Wal Mart is packaged by Tyson. In the USA. USDA beef as well.
Oh I didn't know that
The problem is the store decides how long they are going to let it sit on the shelf, so it could be blessed by the pope and still go bad on the shelf and be sold that way
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Just to clarify for the know it alls....who dont know anything. The meat at Wal Mart is packaged by Tyson. In the USA. USDA beef as well.
But it has much more preservatives so it can stay fresh since it is prepacked before it comes into the store. Preservatives arent good for your body and frankly, you cant make that stuff taste right....not even the ground beef....ain't enough seasonings in the world.
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Oh I didn't know that
The problem is the store decides how long they are going to let it sit on the shelf, so it could be blessed by the pope and still go bad on the shelf and be sold that way
Baack, my comment on the know it alls wasnt directed towards you, lol. Although...now I can't find the comment that made me reply. No offense intended from that other post. Was grumpy.

Anywho...the meat comes pre packaged and I think already weighed and priced out. All the employee does is take it out of the package and put it on the shelf...I believe there are expiration dates on there...or sell by dates. Crimeny...maybe they weigh and price it there...they do have a printer and scale in that room back there...argh. cant remember.


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The last time i was out on the road in a truck,, we stopped at the wal-mart in Logan Utah and got their chicken from the deli,, wish we hadnt of,, it was fully cooked but it was chicken that was outdated,, it tasted awful it was rotten and then they soaked it in vineger to make it taste ok ,, this was probably chicken out of their own meat dept,, i wont by checken from wal-mart anymore from the deli.. also when you buy meat products in the store if the package is puffed up like it has air in it,, dont buy it, its bad meat already, only buy meat in tight packages that look vacum sealed so to speak,, i learned about the puffed up packages being bad meat in from a friend that worked a meat dept in a major grocery store, he also said they take old meat soak it in vinegar put it in new packaging to sell it.. yuck..how gross is that..
Well I dunno. Im not going to argue, but this doesnt make sense. I worked at Wal Mart in various departments for about 9 months as a second job before we moved out to WY.

There is no way to tell if a chicken from the deli was out dated. Not trying to be sarcastic...its just not possible, lol. Their rotisserie chicken is thawed in the smaller of two meat department coolers (the one that is used for poultry and fish). It is then seasoned and cooked in the store. They have set time limits for how long the chicken can sit out under the warmers. They also have a logbook they use along with a thermometer to record temperatures of each batch of food, as well as periodic (not sure how often) temp checks of the food under the warmers. Anything that is fried, started off frozen.
Granted, they have various sauces that they coat the chicken in afterwards...might have been a funky flavor they were trying (as they do have a new flavor out now for their boneless wings).

As far as them soaking it in vinegar...unless you actually saw a bottle of vineger, and them pouring it in a bowl and the chicken into the bowl....you can't be sure. Coating the chicken in Vinegar is breaking many food safety violations as well as store policies. I highly doubt they did this at all. I know they have chicken tenders, but they also have other breaded chicken pieces. I tried some and I thoguht I was getting the tenders, but got like breaded breasts or something...tasted weird, but it was just the breading.

As far as the packaging...lol whats with the vinegar? The red you see in meat is blood. Adding vinegar to it will not make the meat go from brown to red again. The puffed up packaging is a air mixture they pump in, that adds some extra shelf life to the meat. I think its a higher concentration of oxygen which keeps the meat redder, longer. There was a buzz about this practice last year, but many companies do this as there is nothing wrong with it. Just because meat loses its color a little bit, people think its poisonous to eat. I could be wrong about this...but I do remember the practice being in the news of meat packing companies doing something like this.
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Sorry to burst any bubbles BUT
"best before" date is just that. It does not mean that the milk or whatever will turn sour at midnight.
Just means it is at optimum freshness before that date.
That being said, I always check dates and would NOT buy something "old"
True it is not a magic date that means it is going to go bad at midnight...

My point is that I am paying money for something it is going to be FRESH and not past the recommended shelf life date...


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DATE DATA. The dates, for one, mean quite different things. For instance, "sell by" is more a guide for the store to know how long it can display a product for sale. The "best before" or "best if used by" date refers to a quality or flavor of the food. "Use by" works more like an expiration date, similar to that on medicines, and taking them after the date is not recommended.

Worse, some dates can actually be quite misleading. Few folks, for instance, know when they buy meat, that even if the sell-by date is five days away, the refrigerator at home usually isn't cool enough to keep the meat fresh for more than two days. Usually raw meat is kept around 30 degrees Fahrenheit, while the home refrigerator's temperature is set around 40 degrees to keep other things in the fridge (like vegetables) from freezing. So, food safety experts suggest that whether it's ground meat, or a pound of steak, or chicken, consumers either eat or freeze it within two days of buying.
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Stores are not legally required to remove food once the expiration date has passed. They are strictly "advisory" in nature.
Dating is not federally required, except for infant formula and baby food. States have varying laws. Most states require that milk and other perishables be sold before the expiration date
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i guess its ok to sell outdated milk
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Baack, my comment on the know it alls wasnt directed towards you, lol. Although...now I can't find the comment that made me reply. No offense intended from that other post. Was grumpy.

Anywho...the meat comes pre packaged and I think already weighed and priced out. All the employee does is take it out of the package and put it on the shelf...I believe there are expiration dates on there...or sell by dates. Crimeny...maybe they weigh and price it there...they do have a printer and scale in that room back there...argh. cant remember.



Well I dunno. Im not going to argue, but this doesnt make sense. I worked at Wal Mart in various departments for about 9 months as a second job before we moved out to WY.

There is no way to tell if a chicken from the deli was out dated. Not trying to be sarcastic...its just not possible, lol. Their rotisserie chicken is thawed in the smaller of two meat department coolers (the one that is used for poultry and fish). It is then seasoned and cooked in the store. They have set time limits for how long the chicken can sit out under the warmers. They also have a logbook they use along with a thermometer to record temperatures of each batch of food, as well as periodic (not sure how often) temp checks of the food under the warmers. Anything that is fried, started off frozen.
Granted, they have various sauces that they coat the chicken in afterwards...might have been a funky flavor they were trying (as they do have a new flavor out now for their boneless wings).

As far as them soaking it in vinegar...unless you actually saw a bottle of vineger, and them pouring it in a bowl and the chicken into the bowl....you can't be sure. Coating the chicken in Vinegar is breaking many food safety violations as well as store policies. I highly doubt they did this at all. I know they have chicken tenders, but they also have other breaded chicken pieces. I tried some and I thoguht I was getting the tenders, but got like breaded breasts or something...tasted weird, but it was just the breading.

As far as the packaging...lol whats with the vinegar? The red you see in meat is blood. Adding vinegar to it will not make the meat go from brown to red again. The puffed up packaging is a air mixture they pump in, that adds some extra shelf life to the meat. I think its a higher concentration of oxygen which keeps the meat redder, longer. There was a buzz about this practice last year, but many companies do this as there is nothing wrong with it. Just because meat loses its color a little bit, people think its poisonous to eat. I could be wrong about this...but I do remember the practice being in the news of meat packing companies doing something like this.
My experince at walmart is I bought some rotten meat from them before it smelled funny and when I went back they were still selling it.

The rolls of hamburger meat was the only issue I had with them.

I went to the meat counter and told them here smell this and they said what is wrong I again insisted that they smell the meat.

I told them if they do not remove all the meat from their case and get rid of it I was calling the police.

I called the health department, usda everyone I could think of and well they had alot of work to do for a while.

They started doing their own meat for a while untill they got another place to do it or atleast took care of the issues.

I have never bought meat at walmart again.

I have also on occasion quit shopping at walmart for the poor service and the disrespect that I was getting there.

Things have changed some their service still is poor but I no longer wait for service if I do not see what I want or can not reach what I want I go somewere else


I have gotten bad milk from them even with the date being good but I have also gotten back milk other places too.

I can not understand the milk prices though most of the milk I buy are from the same plant just different lables but the prices varry alot. I know a guy that worked at the local milk plant and he told me how to tell if it came from that plant.
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My experince at walmart is I bought some rotten meat from them before it smelled funny and when I went back they were still selling it.

The rolls of hamburger meat was the only issue I had with them.

I went to the meat counter and told them here smell this and they said what is wrong I again insisted that they smell the meat.

I told them if they do not remove all the meat from their case and get rid of it I was calling the police.

I called the health department, usda everyone I could think of and well they had alot of work to do for a while.

They started doing their own meat for a while untill they got another place to do it or atleast took care of the issues.

I have never bought meat at walmart again.

I have also on occasion quit shopping at walmart for the poor service and the disrespect that I was getting there.

Things have changed some their service still is poor but I no longer wait for service if I do not see what I want or can not reach what I want I go somewere else


I have gotten bad milk from them even with the date being good but I have also gotten back milk other places too.

I can not understand the milk prices though most of the milk I buy are from the same plant just different lables but the prices varry alot. I know a guy that worked at the local milk plant and he told me how to tell if it came from that plant.
Walmart hasnt packaged its own meat for years...like...many many years. All of their supercenters (and probably by now, the previous stores that they did some ...meat work) are designed (or redesigned)...so that they don't ever fiddle with the meat, outside of putting a price on there.

Tyson is their beef supplier. Other big name companies provide the pork and chicken. They do not handle meat or package it in any way, shape or form. WHen you see a WM employee walking out of the meat department, they are simply a stockman who works in the meat department with additional food handling training.

As far as the other issues, thats something you have to work out. If I can't reach something, I find someone to help. If I cant...I get a broom and reach it. lol...this past week, I had to get a bottle of Marsala wine...and there was two bottles on the back of the top shelf. I was going to get a broom but figured that would be a bad idea with glass bottles; so I basically took down a few bottles so I could reach. Nothing like using some of that brain matter up between my ears once in a while.

Talk to the manager, write a complaint or whatever. However, I tend to feel that if one gets poor service from lots of people at one place...or at a brand of store...its the customer that is the problem. You would be surprised beyond belief how many customers would come up to me in the Toy Section asking about baby products (on the other side of the store)...or customers coming up to me while I worked in Frozen...asking about ammunition for their guns. Another guy came up to me and asked me what frozen foods are good to eat for someone who has had a heart attack. Uh...Im not a doctor, and two...no frozen foods are good outside of Vegetables because of sodium content.

As far as milk and prices...Wal Mart...just as with any other of their Great value Brands...does not actually package those things. Its generally a big name company who makes the same product, and cans a similar (or the same) thing in a GV / WM label. For milk...Im sure Wal Mart has been able to buy large quantities from the dairy companies which reduce their overall cost.
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