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Well, They tried to hire me back. There was something severely wrong and the District Manager found it out, otherwise I wouldnt have been offered a job back, only I wouldve been demoted in coming back and for performing the job the way it was suppose to be done. The Accountant, I contacted the Fraud Center within Flying J's and she quit before she was fired. evidently she was treating employee's poorly and influencing the General Manager to get on to certain people so she could misinterpute the books or even steal and get away with it. Im sure it was a good bit of both.
Im still going to go further in this matter and will not stop until it is where it should be, I mean..I lost my Job for doing right by you and fellow employee's so I guess I need to remember things over my employment history and check the laws and contact some more people.

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Appreciate all your responses on this critical matter, bluegrassbandmom I really dont know about the buffet items being out of date as our facility was witout a buffet(converted Williams Plaza). I do know many days in the cold deli which had to be pulled daily i.e. items marked 2/27 were pulled on that day. msny times i would pull the deli and the next day I would come in to pull some of the same dates I did before, at first I thought I missed one but then I realized im not that stupid and began doulble checking myself to insure it wasnt me. come to find out, the restaurant makes a lot of deli food items and that it was quite possible items were coming over expired where as on there side they shouldve disposed of them. when I brought this to the restaurant manager on duty they blamed it on an employee saying he put the wrong dates on there but that her and another employee verified that he did it right. (the first time.) I honestly believe there is more than just packaged good's from manufactuers being sold past expiration dates as I have also found entire boxes of expired hotdogs opened in the cooler and used. Molded burrito's, Molded bread, old, old, coffee. I asked the General Manger one day about times for hotdogs and times for coffee and he said hotdogs were good until they were gone and did not comment on coffee. at the facility i worked at there was also issues with expired fountain drink syrups.
often while working i'd become ill but only after drinking certain soda's.
as i stated , I pulled over 100 items about a month ago and when ridiculed for doing so, I did take action and called someone about the matter, Im assuming some one else come inside and purchased an item that was expired because the Health Department did come in and did check items in store and did find 3? expired items that is what was told to us in the meeting. keep in mind, I just pulled 100 or more items that previous week. the day before i was terminated just by front facing, I noticed 10 items on one end cap of a peg isle that were expired. which means to me as in pulling expired items in the past, means theres atleast 20-25 expired items on the shelves. (not mentioning the ham,hotdogs,cheeses,lunchables,and milk inside the cooler. you also would not wish to purchase the ice cream from this facility because there freezer rarely operates properly and you end up purchasing disolving ice cream, when it completely goes out and the ice cream has melted to an extent that it would be of concern it is transferred to the restaurant freezer,frozen again and placed back into original cooler as soon as it is fixed and sold as if it were fresh from mayfield. At the facilty I worked itwas not only trucker oriented but family oriented many families come in and young children would pick up items and it would be a shame if they received or if anyone received expired items due to neglegance. I was told personally on truck days that I didnt need to rotate stock if the date on the first item was within a month that it wouldnt matter and most certainly i didnt need to rotate candy. (apparently candy did not have expiration dates), what those fools did not understand was that candy has code dates and then certain bagged candies has actual expiring dates. I found a package of candy that said 2006 on it and it was 2008. I have encountered items where bad mold was involved in bread, hotdogs, burritos and cheese, my aggressiveness in asserting this matter into a meeting really put me in the hot seat that and being vocal against bias,discriminations. I lost my job and you can bet that if it was a problem at that Georgia Location that it might very well be a problem at most Flying J's, Im almost betting Mormons dont care for you in any extent anyway and that most General Managers with the exception to my First GM are useless as the second GM I have worked for is. Most employees are rude I hear at Flying J's and Im sure it involves harrasments from Management. At our facility I had to break that wall and keep cashiers vibrant and happy and set a model in being respectful of Drivers and helpful in any way, and it shows there, but im afraid that the GENERAL MANAGER, POWER HUNGRY ACCOUNTANT AND MERCHANDISE MANAGER WILL BRING THAT FACILTY DOWN. When visiting FLYING J'S going north or south in and out of South Carolina you will need to be prepared to when buying items , check the dates, when buying hotdogs, asking to see the date on the box being used at that time, when purchasing fountain drink if it taste odd, you will need to ask about the date on the bag, when at this facility you will need to check dates on your products, when buying milk you need to check dates on it aswell,
when buying cheese, bread and burritos anything in cold deli and often before buying chicken tenders in hot deli you will need to break open one to insure it is cooked completely through, I bought some one day because they looked good and fresh and bit into a big chunk of one and it was raw in the middle.

Im telling you these things because they did not attempt to fix them and neglected them up to April 1st 2008 and probably still do neglect them.
Im tleling you this information because of Corporates neglect in harrasments and neglect to inspect the store and realize that there are fools who allow expired items to be present in amounts that are excessive.
it is apparent my contact to corporate office on March 31st 2008 was the final straw before they drew up construed words and lies to terminate me.

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wow i will check dates when i get on the road but this is verry comen trend in america folks, where i work now the manager does verry little to insure that the products are serched for dates but i always check for dates when i stock
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Appreciate all your responses on this critical matter, bluegrassbandmom I really dont know about the buffet items being out of date as our facility was witout a buffet(converted Williams Plaza). I do know many days in the cold deli which had to be pulled daily i.e. items marked 2/27 were pulled on that day. msny times i would pull the deli and the next day I would come in to pull some of the same dates I did before, at first I thought I missed one but then I realized im not that stupid and began doulble checking myself to insure it wasnt me. come to find out, the restaurant makes a lot of deli food items and that it was quite possible items were coming over expired where as on there side they shouldve disposed of them. when I brought this to the restaurant manager on duty they blamed it on an employee saying he put the wrong dates on there but that her and another employee verified that he did it right. (the first time.) I honestly believe there is more than just packaged good's from manufactuers being sold past expiration dates as I have also found entire boxes of expired hotdogs opened in the cooler and used. Molded burrito's, Molded bread, old, old, coffee. I asked the General Manger one day about times for hotdogs and times for coffee and he said hotdogs were good until they were gone and did not comment on coffee. at the facility i worked at there was also issues with expired fountain drink syrups.
often while working i'd become ill but only after drinking certain soda's.
as i stated , I pulled over 100 items about a month ago and when ridiculed for doing so, I did take action and called someone about the matter, Im assuming some one else come inside and purchased an item that was expired because the Health Department did come in and did check items in store and did find 3? expired items that is what was told to us in the meeting. keep in mind, I just pulled 100 or more items that previous week. the day before i was terminated just by front facing, I noticed 10 items on one end cap of a peg isle that were expired. which means to me as in pulling expired items in the past, means theres atleast 20-25 expired items on the shelves. (not mentioning the ham,hotdogs,cheeses,lunchables,and milk inside the cooler. you also would not wish to purchase the ice cream from this facility because there freezer rarely operates properly and you end up purchasing disolving ice cream, when it completely goes out and the ice cream has melted to an extent that it would be of concern it is transferred to the restaurant freezer,frozen again and placed back into original cooler as soon as it is fixed and sold as if it were fresh from mayfield. At the facilty I worked itwas not only trucker oriented but family oriented many families come in and young children would pick up items and it would be a shame if they received or if anyone received expired items due to neglegance. I was told personally on truck days that I didnt need to rotate stock if the date on the first item was within a month that it wouldnt matter and most certainly i didnt need to rotate candy. (apparently candy did not have expiration dates), what those fools did not understand was that candy has code dates and then certain bagged candies has actual expiring dates. I found a package of candy that said 2006 on it and it was 2008. I have encountered items where bad mold was involved in bread, hotdogs, burritos and cheese, my aggressiveness in asserting this matter into a meeting really put me in the hot seat that and being vocal against bias,discriminations. I lost my job and you can bet that if it was a problem at that Georgia Location that it might very well be a problem at most Flying J's, Im almost betting Mormons dont care for you in any extent anyway and that most General Managers with the exception to my First GM are useless as the second GM I have worked for is. Most employees are rude I hear at Flying J's and Im sure it involves harrasments from Management. At our facility I had to break that wall and keep cashiers vibrant and happy and set a model in being respectful of Drivers and helpful in any way, and it shows there, but im afraid that the GENERAL MANAGER, POWER HUNGRY ACCOUNTANT AND MERCHANDISE MANAGER WILL BRING THAT FACILTY DOWN. When visiting FLYING J'S going north or south in and out of South Carolina you will need to be prepared to when buying items , check the dates, when buying hotdogs, asking to see the date on the box being used at that time, when purchasing fountain drink if it taste odd, you will need to ask about the date on the bag, when at this facility you will need to check dates on your products, when buying milk you need to check dates on it aswell,
when buying cheese, bread and burritos anything in cold deli and often before buying chicken tenders in hot deli you will need to break open one to insure it is cooked completely through, I bought some one day because they looked good and fresh and bit into a big chunk of one and it was raw in the middle.

Im telling you these things because they did not attempt to fix them and neglected them up to April 1st 2008 and probably still do neglect them.
Im tleling you this information because of Corporates neglect in harrasments and neglect to inspect the store and realize that there are fools who allow expired items to be present in amounts that are excessive.
it is apparent my contact to corporate office on March 31st 2008 was the final straw before they drew up construed words and lies to terminate me.

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OMG,i did a lot of business at flyin j's all across the US..now this is frighteneing.From now on i will be on red alert when buying merchandise from any truckstop. thanks broyher for the heads up info.
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Imma hijack for a minute....well in a way.

I have worked in a grocery store and fast food. I have seen expired times and dates on food that is unbelievable. I think between the 2, fast food is the worst. Its been 10 years but let me see if I can recall some hold times:
1/4 hamburger patty in a heat well- 7 minutes (anything smaller is 5)
Hot dogs in hot water - 6 hours
lettuce on top of cooler- 4 hours
tomatoes on top of cooler- 2 hours
onions on top of cooler - 4 hours
pickles on top of cooler - 8 hours
Breaded fried chicken under heat lamp - 2 minutes
french fries after complete cooked - 1 minute
cole slaw after seperated into serving containers in fridge - 24 hours
salad in fridge - 24 hours
baked potato kept in warmer oven - 2 hours
biscuits kept in warmer oven- 2 hours
eggs in heat well- 10 minutes
sausage in heat well- 8 minutes
bacon under heat lamp - 2 hours
cheese on ice - 2 hours
toasted bread under warmer - 1 minute
grits and gravy in heat well - 4 hours
tea and coffee - 4 hours but I always made fresh at 2 hours

NOTE: Any thing deep fried (chicken, fries, onion rings, apple turnovers) are actually "precooked" and held....hold minutes on those are 30 minutes with the exception of the chicken which is immediately placed in the fridge til ready to be finished cooking. All of these are "reheated" for at least 30 seconds, Chicken will get 1 1/2 minutes. technically after the "precook" all food are considered done and edible and can be served right away. More than hold times...temperatures are as equally as important. I couldn't even start to go into temps, there are so many to remember.

I do know that the Wal-Mart delis are very strict in hold times....for the most part. I would rather get a hot plate there than eat at a fast food joint. I all too well know what is right....if it ain't hot then chances are, it ain't safe. I have been to truckstops and convenience stores and saw biscuits or sandwiches sitting on the side and it disgusted me.

About sell before dates: While working in the grocery store I had to do damages quite often. Yep, crappy job but it got me away from all those crazy complainers. When doing dairy, we had to actually empty the contents out (down the sink and in the trash) and send the containers back. I found out....it is safe to use any dairy product, 1 week past the "Sell by" date. I would NEVER buy a dairy product past the Sell by date but I keep that in mind when cleaning out my fridge....with the exception of milk.....I use expired milk in biscuits, but I make sure it is no more than 2 weeks past the Sell by date. Chips, snacks and the such....as long as sealed or properly closed can be eaten whenever. Old bread that is crusty, NOT moldy is good for toast and croutons.

Its crazy how people who deal with food are. I would never serve anything with bad times or dates....I use the policy, if I wouldn't eat it then they aren't gonna eat it.

Truckers, do be careful when eating off the buffet, grabbing a sammie or hot dog. REMEMBER: If it isn't hot then chances are it isn't safe.

I see FormerFlyinJ hasnt been around in a while, I'd love to know what the outcome was....
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The last time i was out on the road in a truck,, we stopped at the wal-mart in Logan Utah and got their chicken from the deli,, wish we hadnt of,, it was fully cooked but it was chicken that was outdated,, it tasted awful it was rotten and then they soaked it in vineger to make it taste ok ,, this was probably chicken out of their own meat dept,, i wont by checken from wal-mart anymore from the deli.. also when you buy meat products in the store if the package is puffed up like it has air in it,, dont buy it, its bad meat already, only buy meat in tight packages that look vacum sealed so to speak,, i learned about the puffed up packages being bad meat in from a friend that worked a meat dept in a major grocery store, he also said they take old meat soak it in vinegar put it in new packaging to sell it.. yuck..how gross is that..
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Thats grrrrrross! What does the vinegar do?
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pickles and preserves it
It also helps cover up the rancid or bad meat taste, and helps stop bacterial decomposition
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Have you contacted a employment law lawyer?

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Well, They tried to hire me back. There was something severely wrong and the District Manager found it out, otherwise I wouldnt have been offered a job back, only I wouldve been demoted in coming back and for performing the job the way it was suppose to be done. The Accountant, I contacted the Fraud Center within Flying J's and she quit before she was fired. evidently she was treating employee's poorly and influencing the General Manager to get on to certain people so she could misinterpute the books or even steal and get away with it. Im sure it was a good bit of both.
Im still going to go further in this matter and will not stop until it is where it should be, I mean..I lost my Job for doing right by you and fellow employee's so I guess I need to remember things over my employment history and check the laws and contact some more people.

thanks for your support, good luck on the road,
I would go online and see what you can find in your area to get a employment law lawyer to go after Flying J for treating you badly when you were trying to help the customers from getting sick.

In terms of things being left on the shelf longer than they should, there was a story in the Washington Post newspaper about five years ago where Food Lion was changing the wrapping of old meat and putting on a new plastic wrap and new expiration date. I asked a friend who works with Bi-Lo as a meat department attendant and he said, Yep ... that's done sometimes.

Also, about two years ago I was at an Exxon near the Maryland State Fairgrounds getting gas and then I got a Hershey's chocolate bar. I opened it and it had parts that were white and started to fall away as I was undoing the wrapper. I asked someone about that and she said the bar was old and you should not have eaten it.

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