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Sleepy3103 · **^ Top** #1 05.10.2007

NORTH CAROLINA ERECTS NEW TRUCK WARNING SIGN ...... This sign has been installed on NC28 at US74 and gives truckers plenty of warning and time to turn around. Now let's see if Tennessee can follow suit. Photo by John Bunch, Fontana Village

Another similar sign has been installed near Robbinsville on US129.
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UPDATE January 2006 email from Swift Transportation:
How are we doing? We have been making every effort to route our trucks away from the Dragon, but occasionally we still have a rogue Driver that wants to do it "his own way."
If you see us up there, I would sure appreciate notification. I assure you we will address it. I still frequent your website. What a great job you have done on that! Beautiful scenery.
The Trucking industry sure gets a "black eye" but rightly so. I hope that we (Swift) will be able to outlive our earlier reputation and become known as the Company that took action and made a difference. We are truly trying. I wish you safe and enjoyable riding.
Sincerely, Jim Wright,
CDS Swift Transportation Manager Driver Safety Performance & Log Audit
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Trucks on the Dragon have caused very few problems for both motorcycle riders and car drivers in the past. But now that more traffic is using the road these larger vehicles have become a hazard to avoid. Anyone using the Dragon needs to be aware that they might encounter one of these 18-wheelers around any curve.
For the most part we do not blame the drivers of these big-rigs. Nine out of ten did not realize what they were getting into until it was too late to turn around. All nine say they will take another route next time. The tenth one is probably a local who knows the road and how to drive it. Many of the locals actually have warning vehicles ahead of them, so if you see a car or pick-up with a flashing yellow light on top be sure to pull over and stop because something big is coming!
We have asked semi drivers how they got on the Dragon. Some say they just looked at a map and it was the shortest route. Of course the curves don't show-up on highway maps so here they come. Others have said they used Expedia.com on the Internet .... just fill-in where you are and where you want to go and you map will be prepared for you. Frankly I wouldn't use this method to go across the county, much less across the country. The computer uses no common sense and anyone who follows such directions deserves to get lost and end up on some forsaken backroad where the only place to stay for the night is the Bates Motel. I find it incredulous that professional truckers would use Expedia.
Still others are directed on routes by their dispatchers. This is the one that upsets us. We had problems with SWIFT sending rig after rig over the Dragon a few years ago. They caused several accidents and yet repeated contacts with their headquarters failed to prevent them from coming our way. All SWIFT had to do was send out a notice telling all of their drivers to stay off this highway and word would have gotten-out. There was even one Swift Truck that ventured into the Great Smoky Mountain National Park (a big no-no) and then turned into Cades Cove ... a one lane, one way, scenic loop, well marked to prohibit not only big rigs, but ALL COMMERCIAL traffic. He made it about a mile before running off the road in a tight corner. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. TO SEE MORE ABOUT THESE INCIDENTS
Now that we have your attention, let us tell you how to avoid running headlong into or under one of these cycle eaters. Even at speed you should be able to avoid these behemoths if you are (1) paying attention, (2) are experienced enough to control your braking, and (3) keep a cool head and react under pressure.
Foremost you need to watch ahead for any indication that one of these guys is coming. You can see through some of the curves with your peripheral vision. Even if you don't see the truck because of a blind corner you will likely see it soon enough to have time to stop before you get to it (here is the cool head and controlled braking), or you will not see the truck until late in the corner and have enough room to dive for the white line and avoid it before it steals your lane.
Nancy and I have met many long-trucks on the Dragon and not had a real close call yet on bikes. We were nearly sideswiped in our pick-up truck once, though. We know the bad corners to really watch-out for. Two of the worst are on The Slide just above Fugitive Bridge as you approach Tapoco Dam. There are two sharp corners here with guardrail on one side and rock cliff within inches of the roadway on the other side. We slow way down here. That is where the photo on the left of the logging truck was taken. We have actually had people who thought we faked that photo of the truck entering the curve in the wrong lane. Believe us, it is for real! Notice the burned rubber just to the left of double yellow lines. He was smoking his tires trying to break speed going steeply downhill into the sharpest curve within a hundred miles. We were praying that no one was coming at him in the corner.
The State of Tennessee did manage to erect a sign late in 2002 that issues a warning to truckers as they approach the Dragon. We think a few more need to be installed way back at the intersection of US 129 and US 411, some 20 miles closer to Maryville. The State of North Carolina has done nothing to try to prevent trucks on this road. We know that it can be done as both Tennessee and North Carolina have other highways with signs warning truckers. For some reason they do not want to post obvious signs on US 129.
The really bad time for trucks is when I-40 is shut-down somewhere between Knoxville and Asheville. This occurs more often than one would think because the Interstate winds through mountains with steep rock cliffs where rock slides are prevalent, there are tunnels and narrow passes where a wreck can tie-up traffic for hours, and there are very few alternate routes for a hundred miles. We once spent six hours waiting for a broken down wide-load truck to be towed out of a tunnel and there have been times when rock slides have closed the road for weeks.
It looks like there will be trucks on the Dragon for the 2003 season, so be prepared. We have had some serious wrecks involving trucks, but there have been no deaths as of yet. Please don't be the first.
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Monday August 4, 2003 noon: Flat bed semi-truck side-swipes vintage Triumph sports car on Dragon. No injuries, but damage to side of car .... occurred just north of Overlook at mile 2 on Dragon map.

Sept 21, 2005 - Photo by Andrea Batts

July 23, 2005 at the Hump

Monday, Sept 16, 2002: 5pm we came upon the above
pictured semi stuck in a corner at the state line

July 31, 2002 and yet another!! This wayward trucker got stuck in The Hump. He lost traction and had to back-up 3 times before getting enough umph to power through. More scrapes on the new surface.

Sleepy3103 · **^ Top** #2 05.10.2007

July 2002. Another trucker bitten by the Dragon. Imagine if this gasoline tanker truck had flipped over and caught fire. Probably would have made the fires out west look small in comparison. The wrecker pulling the truck out gouged the new pavement.

Another pic of the CalArk truck stuck in the Hump.
Photo from Gary West

Plenty of room.

Photo from Glenn B.

Curt Tricarico captured this photo of an auto transport with "sparking ramp pucks" on the Dragon.

This is the kind of stuuf that gives us a bad rep. Well truckers that don't shower help too.

Cerberus · **^ Top** #3 05.10.2007

cool pics man.............

Zero · **^ Top** #4 05.10.2007

It might be a good idea to put a low-clearance bar across the entrance to this road. But I guess there may be some local trucks that have to use it. Having a truck in front of you could really ruin a Sunday afternoon bike ride.

earthbrown · **^ Top** #5 05.11.2007

cant wait.... I will be on the dragon in june.... on the bike though....

K

Gearjammin' Penguin · **^ Top** #6 05.12.2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by earthbrown

cant wait.... I will be on the dragon in june.... on the bike though....

K

That's a road I should ride as well. I'm worried about it being overcrowded and overhyped, though.

danc694u · **^ Top** #7 05.12.2007

Reminds me of the "crooked Highway" in VA. SR 8 between SR 57 and US221. But of course, without the traffic LOL.

SR 8 requires you to use both shoulders in the turns. Most turns are completely blind. It's not a highway I will be using again anytime soon. And I run a lot of backroads.

MACK E-6 · **^ Top** #8 05.13.2007

I'll be on vacation in Pigeon Forge, TN the week before Labor Day, and I intend to check out both of those roads while I am down that way.

Sleepy3103 · **^ Top** #9 05.15.2007

Ok I meant to put this up so we can talk about the things some truckers do(like going down roads like this) that make us all look bad. Anyone care to talk about this subect?

Zero · **^ Top** #10 05.16.2007

I don't know. The article you posted admits that there needs to be more warning signs posted and it may not be easy to turn around once you reach a certain point. I looked it up in the Motor Carriers' Road Atlas, '05 edition, and it's not a restricted route. So I'm not so quick to blame this on the drivers. I'm glad you posted it, though. Now I know not to go there.

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