2007 D16. Overheating /Shutting Down

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  1. Andrew B

    Andrew B Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for all the help my friends, it seems all I needed was an oil change.
    Not too sure why it worked but it did, I change my filters regularly and my oil analysis came back clean.
    It's a bummer that I had to pay $2500 and have 4 days off work but it's better news than an EGR problem ;0)
     
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  3. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    I'm in disbelief here given the symptoms!
    Are these motors REALLY that sensitive to oil?

    Btw, what type of oil have you been using?

    Thanks
     
  4. Andrew B

    Andrew B Bobtail Member

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    As for my oil, it was Chevron 5W30 Synthetic. I have a bypass filter and my oil analysis always comes back clean.
    Now I have a generic 10W40 mineral oil and all the symptoms have gone.
    All I can say is what I have done and the result. I can't tell you why it works now ;0(
     
  5. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    Bizzare for sure.
    I'm running conventional oil, Delvac 1300 15W-40 here.
     
  6. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    5w-30 in a diesel? Seems a little light. I've never seen a diesel engine use anything other than 15w-40 or 0w-40 in cold climates.
     
  7. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    Yeah the new stuff is heading toward 0w-30,5w-30 and 10w-30 oils. Volvo specs 10w-30 for the D13 & D16 engines. I still use good old 15W-40 though.
     
  8. simon999

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    What bypass filter you use? How often you change oil?
     
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  9. DaveLV

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    Was the code PID 100 fmi 1? There are a couple bulletins concerning the oil pressure shutdown in the 07 models. Also there are a couple updates for engines built prior to 12/15/06. I have one in the shop with the same issue. At first turned out to be a main bearing issue. We swung a reman D16 into it and had same issue. Also there is a new bulletin in the works ( not published yet) that addresses oil pressure in the 16 liter. Min spec has changed and the ECM will need a software update. As I am dealing with one in the shop right now I have a little insight. Do you remember what the oil temp wss ? 235-239. I graphed the one we have now and shut down occurred with 57 psi the temp ranged 235-239. Coolant temp was 205-210. Fan works. All temps and pressures were measured in both VCADS and by mechanical gauges. As it is a reman engine and had new turbo egr valve and cooler new oil pump this we were ruled out. Check oil pressure at the rocker shaft. Is the VEB allowing 14-16 psi and system pressure with VEB on. Oil temp thermostat in the filter base working. The problem will reoccur and eventually happen every pull whether new oil or not
     
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  10. KB3MMX

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    Dave, what is the fix? Just a software update?

    My D16 will see 220-235° EOT's on any hard pull, especially during warm weather. Cruise is 195-210° EOT's.

    Never seems to every it though, just gets the coolant kinda hot and will cycle the fan on and off.

    I did install a manual fan switch and will engage on a hard pull if desired ,which keeps the coolant and oil much much cooler!
     
  11. DaveLV

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    I don't want to lead you down the wrong path dependant on what code you have. There is an oil temperature thermostat in the oil filter base. There is a service program that addresses this exact issue. However the truck in I was doing had a reman engine new oil pump turbo etc. We replaced the thermostat on the old engine. Then found the main bearing issue. We swung the engine with a Volvo reman and transferred the oil filter base. The problem migrated to the new engine. I replaced the filter base and the road tested the truck with loaded trailer at 46k lbs up mountain pass in CA and no issue. Oil temp never above 231. Oil pressure at 68 psi. The service bulletin addresses trucks manufactured after Dec 2006 but seems to apply to a few prior.
     
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