CDL or no CDL/ 26000+/-

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  1. Nedrudt

    Nedrudt Light Load Member

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    Weird title, I know. I've been researching different truck and trailer combinations and came across that a 40' big tex has a gvwr of 22k +, that leaves 4k for the truck and any f350/3500 is over 10k. So does that mean all you guys with that set up have your CDL? I also just came across on another forum that your gcvwr can be over 26001 but you can have plates for 26k and be legal. Is this correct?
     
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    any rig weighing over 26,ooo+ requires a CDL , thats trk trlr n load. Our trucks were apportioned for 36000, a 1-ton dodge dually, n 40ft PJ trlr with 24000 axles' subtract trk and trlr and we could haul 16000 legal but you gota have a cdl, run log book etc etc. some states may vary but in texas you can get ticketed for pulling a tandem axle trlr with no cdl. happened to 4 of our guys
     
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    More than 26,000 lbs GVWR requires a CDL.

    Less than 26,000 lbs GVWR but you add a trailer in the mix that has a GVWR of more than 10,000 lbs than you move to GCWR which puts you above the threshold and requires a CDL.

    Example: A straight truck with a 26,000 lbs GVWR pulling a 7800 lb GVWR trailer doesn't need a CDL. Pull a 10,001 lb trailer and then you do need a CDL.

    Anything over 10,000 lbs regardless of CDL status you need a medical card.
     
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    Nedrudt Light Load Member

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    Are there a lot of guys that fly under 26? Or is that to limiting?
     
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    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    That's something for the hotshotters to answer. I know many limited their trailer size because of it. You have to take into consideration what you haul and how it effects your income.
     
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    The problem with hotshot is weight, oil field equip is heavy and they tend to overload you. i ran hotshot for 3 yrs and found that DOT knows the drill about oilfield and i was pulled over and inspected 3 times more than i did long hauling. No matter what trlr you choose watch weights for the trlr . A single valve can weigh as much as 6500 lbs. pipe, valves, blowout preventers are all heavy and some tricky to tie down and DOT watches that close too.
     
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    So is this right, a 10k trailer on a 11500 truck doesn't need a CDL? But a 10,001 trailer on the same truck needs a CDL? And a 10k trailer on a 26k truck doesn't need a CDL? Kinda confusing.

    Another question, how do you use a truck with payments on it in your name in your company? Are you technically a contractor in your own company?
     
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    No If your truck is 11500, your trailer can be up to 14,500. You need a CDL with a trailer over 10,000 only when the combined GVWR is over 26000 , but, if your trailer is under 10000 lbs, you can have a combined GVWR of over 26000 as long as the truck is 26000 or less without a CDL. Confusing?, yeah, I know.
     
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    I decided I'm going with a CDL, register at 26000 and hope for the best.
     
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