We don't have that option but we can work the dock of needed too. Yes do not go to those compamies
Now off subject I really hope you wouldn't go to CWF after what they did to CF. I worked for CWF for 6 months and they always bad mouthed the union and show anti videos stating how bad it was and how CEX was shut down. I brought that up to my shop steward(all employees hate CWF) and he told me the correct story of CEX. One night speaking to an old timer he gave me the whole history lesson about it and explained why they hate them. Then today speaking to one of the dock guys he told me he worked there, and is still bummed about it all
Experience with YRC ( includes YRC, New Penn, USF Reddaway and Holland
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I am still bummed out about it too. It was the perfect job. They kicked me to the curb in 1999. Did the Teamsters help us? You bet they didn't!
I worked for CRST on a dedicated UPS account (yes it was a bad company) and our truck broke down. Well someone had to take our load till our truck got fixed. Then to get us home in time for our next UPS load they gave us a Conway load home! I was pissed! I said I hate that place and don't wanna pull their freight! dispatcher said "they are our biggest customer" and told me not to be late. That made me even more pissed off! Anyway, I pulled it and got there in time but I didn't like it. At least is was drop n hook and I just went home. When I got to the Conway yard (Fontana, CA) there were some pretty pissed off guys there. The drivers didn't seem happy. So 1. I won't work there just because of what happened with CF 2. I won't work there because they seem to treat their drivers bad and 3. I'm a trucker not a dock worker. That Conway yard was huge too. It rivaled some of the FedEx Freight yards I've been to.
The UPS Freight drivers that were Overnight hate UPS too. I heard the FedEx Freight drivers that were Watkins hate FedEx. Overnight and Watkins were like CF. You had to run teams but the yards had these huge parking lanes like a truck stop. You would pull in your pups, drop the front trailer, bobtail to the office, turn in your paperwork, get your new paperwork or get paid hourly till they had it ready, hook up to your doubles that were already hooked for you and burn out of there. Only time you had to hook a set was at a dark terminal. I was home every week and making $1500 a week in the 1990's. At first FedEx kept Watkins as FedEx National but not anymore. UPS also kept the OTR guys but now I heard they out source the OTR runs to places like CRST and Owner operators. I can understand why they are angry. Not to mention the old Watkins guys no have to include dock work into their job. Ridiculous!
At least YRC still pays our benefits and still has real positions. You are either a truck driver or a dock worker. Or in Reddaway's case, a dock worker if you feel like doing it for the local guys. That's pretty rare at my yard though. Usually when the local guys get done they are running for their cars. Even if they only worked 4 hours lol.
Another thing was the union at CF was really strong. We wouldn't back down like they eventually did at YRC. I will admit that circumstances were different for YRC. We were all for one and one for all. We stood our ground. All the workers there were pro union and the union was strong. That's why CF had to make Conway. Well 2 reasons really. A lot of union companies back in the 70's, 80's and 90's started buying or starting sisters companies, maybe even earlier than that. It was in case of a strike, they would route their freight through their non union sister company. Well CF took it a step further when they couldn't break the union and just closed shop and stuck Conway with all their freight. Yellow had WestEx which is now part of Saia. I don't believe YRC is part of Saia anymore, at least I hope they aren't. If so they could CF us too.
[h=1]From Conway's Website,
Con-way Inc. traces its history to Leland James, who, in 1929, founded a small regional trucking company in Portland, Oregon, named Consolidated Truck Lines. The company enjoyed great success through expansion and acquisition, and was later renamed Consolidated Freightways (CF).
James' company would experience a number of changes over the course of time, including when, in 1983, the corporation known as Con-way Transportation Services was founded. The following provides an overview of the company's successes and changes throughout its history. Read the complete story.
Facing pressures from oil embargos and union labor costs, the trucking industry was thrust into deregulation toward the end of the 1970s. CF took this opportunity to expand its business to include air freight and trailer manufacturing.
- Deregulation (1971-1983)
Con-way was created to provide nonunion, regional short-haul service in markets where CF wasn't actively selling its services. The regional companies Con-way Central Express (CCX), Con-way Western Express (CWX) and Con-way Eastern Express (CEX) were established as part of this strategy.
- Con-way Transportation Services (1983-1985)
CF, Inc. launched Menlo Logistics in mid-1990 to broaden its service portfolio beyond less-than-truckload (LTL) transportation, and to capitalize on the growing trend of bundled logistics services. Menlo was among the first of a new breed of integrated logistics companies.
- Launch of Menlo Logistics (1991)
The Truckload division was launched to more efficiently manage Con-way's hub-to-hub freight network across its regional companies. This new subsidiary provided linehaul service on full loads of LTL shipments moving in transcontinental traffic lanes.
- Launch of Con-way Truckload (2005)
Con-way, formerly CNF, Inc., underwent a corporate rebranding process, and the new name, Con-way Inc., was officially introduced on April 19, 2006. On May 5, 2006, the new ticker symbol on the New York Stock Exchange became CNW.
- The New Con-way (2006)
Menlo purchased Cougar Holdings Pte Ltd. and Chic Holdings Ltd. in 2007. Singapore-based Cougar expanded Menlo's operational scope in Southeast Asia, and Shanghai-based Chic gave Menlo a pan-China presence. These two acquisitions vaulted Menlo into a major Asian logistics company.
- Menlo Expands in Asia (2007)
The acquisition of CFI gives Con-way a major presence in truckload freight. Today, the Truckload division operates more than 2,600 tractors and 7,000 trailers, with more than 3,000 employees, including 2,500 drivers.
- Con-way Acquires CFI (2007)
Con-way will celebrate 25 years in less-than-truckload freight transportation in 2008. An enterprise-wide anniversary celebration is planned to mark the occasion.Named FORTUNE magazine's "Most Admired Company" in transportation and logistics for 2007, Con-way delivers industry-leading services through its primary operating companies of Con-way Freight, Con-way Truckload, and Menlo Worldwide Logistics. These operating units provide industry-leading regional, inter-regional and national less-than-truckload (LTL); logistics, warehousing and supply chain management services; as well as full truckload freight transportation to the best companies across North America and around the globe. Con-way and its subsidiaries operate from more than 500 locations across North America and in 20 countries across five continents.
- The Road Ahead (200
sounds what my co-workers had told me about it. Think it is beyond messed up what they did. Costing thousands of people teir jobs because you want to get rid of the union. If YRC is planning on doing that, then looks like New Penn, and Holland will be going as well since they are both union. Still dont think YRC wants to do that, I remember reading on their website and they were stating how proud to be with the teamsters and have always had a contract through them... I know ABF is proud of it, when I interviewed last year the guy was telling me about how great the union is... and he was just a hiring manager not involved with it.
Well as you know I worked for CWF last year... never realizing what they did, but makes perfect sense about the anti-union videos. A lot of the guys their hate it any ways. The guys at my yard at YRC LOVE the fact we have to go their and pickup CWFs freight because they cant get into the union places! Oh well sux for them... shouldve kept CF
All ya gotta do is get some seniority here and it's straight truckin' after that. (unless your at a very small EOL that has only a couple of runs)
But overall company wide it's a small percentage of road runs that work the dock.
@.5758/mile here at Mud Island and $22.65/hr. to do drops and hooks. (1/2 hr. each)
Pay is higher than that in other regions. Shy town is getting .60 something/mile these days.
I'm running a 584 mile M-F day bid right now, so life is gooood!Last edited: Sep 2, 2012
You are OTR right? Think I remember reading that. I always wanted to do sleeper teams at Yellow back in the day after CF closed up but they didn't run teams out of southern California. So I just did road driver which was their way of saying line haul. I made good money doing that too until the recession. Only problem was I had an hour drive to work one way but it was worth it then.
You know what, I need to clear something up. We have a Hog Board here too. I think Wheels are more humane, but, I don't want to get into that. Hog Boards can be cruel to a rookie, but, there is a way around it. Stay away from it! I'm different than most guys, I always beg, "Keep me out". That's how I run hard. If you're new & want to spend alot of time at home, that's fine, you can do that, but, you're not gonna make the big bucks. Not until you build some seniority & snatch up a nice 'Turn Bid'. But, by then, you might actually like some time away from the 'wifey'. lol This is probably why I can count on 1 hand how many drivers I've noticed in their 20s.
Oh yeah, cool35, about 'sleeper teams', I gave that alot of thought. I would have to quit & rehire at Chicago. Really thought I might do that, until, I talked to a few guys who used to run sleeper teams & they ALL told me the same thing, "don't do it, keep doin what you're doin". So, I changed my mind on that.Last edited: Sep 3, 2012
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