Wellllll, ........ let's just say it's doubtful that you'll be laughing.
Although, depending on what your ghost's name is, the D.O.T. might
find that it tickles their funny bone.
After that, your Safety Department might get a kick out of it.
And you might just get a kick, right out the door.
Be sure to leave that door open, just in case.
Head-first into a door can be painful.
And, as I'm sure you're aware,
pain hurts.
Exposing log book tricks
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jlkklj777, Jan 1, 2008.
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Another perspective I would like to throw out there is this: The DOT HOS regulations my actually cause drivers to drive tired.
Say you have a driver who is still green and does everything by the book 100%. Say he gets loaded at 9 PM and has the full 11 to drive.
He starts his driving and by 2 AM he is beginning to get sleepy. He knows if he stops to sleep he will run into the 14h rule and will "loose" the remaining 6 hours or part of it. So he keeps pushing and pushing driving through the night, even falling asleep briefly a few times for a second or two. Then finally shuts down at 8 AM.
OR
Or you have the Billy Big Rigger type who pulls over at 2 AM sleeps for a few hours and begins his driving at 6 or 7 AM then rewrites his log to be within the 14?
Who do you think is the bigger safety hazard? The "legal" driver who is forcing himself to drive or the "illegal" driver number 2 who took his 4 hour power nap and feels fine?slabrunner, lonewolf4ad and AfterShock Thank this. -
I agree with ya there. I just wish that some of these people who make the laws knew the industry. I truly believe (or at least HOPE) that some of these laws are passed with the best interest of the truckers and the general public in mind, but how can you pass legislation without experience?
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super10 said: ↑[/size]
Simple, it's time for a little Jedi mind trickery. With a sweep of the hand past the DOT officials face, you say in a smooth and assuring voice "The ghosts you seek are not here" then pull out your pen and start signing tickets.Click to expand... -
Owner's Operator said: ↑Another perspective I would like to throw out there is this: The DOT HOS regulations my actually cause drivers to drive tired.
Say you have a driver who is still green and does everything by the book 100%. Say he gets loaded at 9 PM and has the full 11 to drive.
He starts his driving and by 2 AM he is beginning to get sleepy. He knows if he stops to sleep he will run into the 14h rule and will "loose" the remaining 6 hours or part of it. So he keeps pushing and pushing driving through the night, even falling asleep briefly a few times for a second or two. Then finally shuts down at 8 AM.
OR
Or you have the Billy Big Rigger type who pulls over at 2 AM sleeps for a few hours and begins his driving at 6 or 7 AM then rewrites his log to be within the 14?
Who do you think is the bigger safety hazard? The "legal" driver who is forcing himself to drive or the "illegal" driver number 2 who took his 4 hour power nap and feels fine?Click to expand... -
Safety first,some time u gotta do what u gotta do,watch out 4 ur fellow driver he may watch out 4 u, u gotta do what u gotta do,but it's not all 4 u ,never 4 git about ur family,but do what u gotta do,because it will be tuff with out u,u may win ,u may loose,but make it home,so u can do what u gotta do. BE SAFE OUT THERE.
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OK, here it goes...
Hamilton, ON to Sacramento, CA. Deliver there. Same day pickup in Salinas, Castroville, Delano and Bakersfield, CA. Going to Toronto, ON. Deliver to Toronto, ON.
From Hamilton, ON to Sacramento, CA, stopped 3 times (WY POE, UT POE and in Elko, NV)
From Bakersfield, CA to Toronto, ON, stopped 4 times(AZ POE, NM POE, scale at Joplin, MO and scale at I57, just before Effingham, IL). Heavy....scaled at the Hook in Barstow, CA at 79980 Lbs
Hamilton, ON -> Sacramento, CA -> 4 pickups in CA -> Toronto, ON.....Stopped 7 times by various DOT's, no tickets. Logbook checked 7 times by various DOT's. All legal, no violations....
Whole trip, 6.5 days, 5900 miles....No reset...
All legal, just use your brain
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miakica said: ↑OK, here it goes...
Hamilton, ON to Sacramento, CA. Deliver there. Same day pickup in Salinas, Castroville, Delano and Bakersfield, CA. Going to Toronto, ON. Deliver to Toronto, ON.
From Hamilton, ON to Sacramento, CA, stopped 3 times (WY POE, UT POE and in Elko, NV)
From Bakersfield, CA to Toronto, ON, stopped 4 times(AZ POE, NM POE, scale at Joplin, MO and scale at I57, just before Effingham, IL). Heavy....scaled at the Hook in Barstow, CA at 79980 Lbs
Hamilton, ON -> Sacramento, CA -> 4 pickups in CA -> Toronto, ON.....Stopped 7 times by various DOT's, no tickets. Logbook checked 7 times by various DOT's. All legal, no violations....
Whole trip, 6.5 days, 5900 miles....No reset...
All legal, just use your brain
CheersClick to expand...
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miakica said: ↑.....Whole trip, 6.5 days, 5900 miles....No reset...
All legal, just use your brain
CheersClick to expand...
I ran a team, dedicated gig runnin' 6,700 miles in 7 days ---
which is around 957 miles a day, on average,
and we sure didn't wear out the door hinges.
And you're claiming 907 miles a day average for 6 1/2 days,
including deliveries and pickups?
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lostNfound said: ↑
How could you not be over your 70 hours once you crossed the border back into Canada?Click to expand...
2)Ommited a pick up or two in CA.
3) Must have squeezed a "restart" in their somewhere, the 70 hours runs out after about 3900 miles.
It's possible if you can handle running California to Toronto in 60 hours and sleeping 4 hours a night. Believe it or not this is how most produce transporters run.
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