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FJ-Pilot heated fuel

Discussion in 'Truck Stops' started by Snailexpress, Sep 15, 2015.

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  1. Sep 15, 2015 #1
    Snailexpress

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    Anybody can explain me why they have heated fuel in summer time?
    FJ I-25 Cheyenne WY
    Pilot I-70 Limon CO
    FJ I-45 Richie St., Houston
    As to me it's looks like corporate cheating.
     
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  3. Sep 15, 2015 #2
    mtoo

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    Wow, Pilot accused of fraud. That's never happened before. There was that little fuel rebate scam, but that was a few rouge executives not Pilot.
     
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  4. Sep 15, 2015 #3
    truckon

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    What is "heated fuel"?
     
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  5. Sep 15, 2015 #4
    RustyBolt

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    I can only guess that it is fuel that is warmed. Not sure if selling less fuel due to expansion is enough to offset the cost of heating it though. If I'm thinking correctly on the subject. Not sure it expands at all. Could be another line of thinking all together. LOL
     
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  7. Sep 15, 2015 #5
    truckon

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    Guess the OP stuck a thermometer in the fuel?
     
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  8. Sep 15, 2015 #6
    Snailexpress

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    No. I didn't stuck thermometer or anything. I lost my gloves and grabbed fuel gun with unprotected hand. It was hot about 120 - 140 degree. Fuel desk personnel was mumbling when I asked them about fuel temperature.
    I think answer is here.


    The clearest answer I've heard to date is that the coefficient is 0.00046 per degree Fahrenheit. That is to say that for every degree rise in temperature your volume will go up that amount. The math works like this, say you have a temperature rise from 60 degrees f to 84 f over the course of a day and a tank with 100 gallons of diesel in it. Multiply the coefficient by the number of degrees temp rise (24 x 0.00046=0.01104) then multiply that answer by the total number of gallons you started with to get the number of gallons increase in the tank when the diesel warmed up to 84 degrees (0.01104 x 100=1.104 gal.)
    Remember the liquid itself has to rise in temperature and it may take a long time to do but this is a handy way to figure the amount of room to leave in a tank for expansion.
     
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  9. Sep 15, 2015 #7
    STexan

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    ok, so it was warm. Why do you indicate 4 specific truck stops running this "fuel heating scam"?

    These truck stop get at least 1 load a day if not 2-3 loads a day at the busier stops. It's summer, the fuel at the depot is pumped a mile through pipe in the sun, it's hot out, fuel gets cooked in an aluminum trailer in the sun all day as it's trucked, then get's dumped, then get's immediately pumped.

    All, I'm saying is warm fuel in the summer time does not seem unreasonable without going to the expense of purposely "warming the fuel"
     
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  10. Sep 15, 2015 #8
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    So you held all the handles with you bare hand and determined how warm they were within 10 degrees?
     
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  11. Sep 15, 2015 #9
    windsmith

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    Maybe they have above ground tanks?
     
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  12. Sep 15, 2015 #10
    Snailexpress

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    He-he .
    Never seen FJ or Pilot with above ground tanks. Day time temperature in WY is 80-70 degree how fuel could be hot like coffee.
     
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