I was told they are getting rid of DEF, could it be true?

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  1. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    At the truck two guys claimed very loudly that they are getting rid of DEF. I googled it and didn't find any proof that DEF is going away.

    Anyone have any input on this?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Mullet_Head87

    Mullet_Head87 Medium Load Member

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    Best to do your business and get back to your truck or get rolling asap. Don't hang inside the truckstops, you'll get your head filled with bull Doo Doo. When I was waiting in line one time for Hardee's I had to listen to a guy ramble about how he knows the founders/owners of the franchise and where they live. Then he told me a conspiracy theory about bill gates. Longest and weirdest 5 minutes to get a burger. Once I got my order i said "hold on one sec, I'll be back". Then took off. Wonder how long he waited.
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    InternationalMaxxforce tried, it didn't work.

    Cummins initially thought it would work, but they have since helped International fix that mistake.
     
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  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    No other feasible way to eliminate nox at the moment. Which is the real problem, not the soot.
     
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  6. OOwannaBE

    OOwannaBE Medium Load Member

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    I never believe anything a trucker says at a truck stop.
     
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  7. ShooterK2

    ShooterK2 Road Train Member

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    Best way I know of to get rid of DEF is to buy a truck that never had it.

    And if you're gonna do that, ya might as well go back far enough to get rid of DPF, EGR, and E-logs.

    Makes life a lot easier.
     
  8. AModelCat

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  9. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Interesting read.

    To me the emissions system problems is all in the dpf. I don't understand why soot (carbon) is such a bad thing. Isn't it the same stuff we buy for a charcoal bbq? I understand the nox going into the air is what eats the ozone. In my experience the dpf is the source of the problems with the back pressure. The def system, if filters changed regularly, should be less of a problem.

    I don't think manufacturers will be going back to an in-cylinder solution anytime soon after international's debacle.
     
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  10. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    I looked a little more into it. Cost probably has a lot to do with it. Seems like for it to work properly, you'd need to shoot for approximately 15% of the fuel flow. Based on 6 mpg fuel economy over 3,000 miles, you'd need about 75 gallons of water/methanol.
     
  11. againstthewind

    againstthewind Road Train Member

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    why are we so worried about emissions and the ozone layer and that sorta stuff, i thought jesus was coming to save us.
     
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