Insurance Premium

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  1. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    Hello,

    So finally I received an insurance quote on 1 tractor and I would like to know what you think.

    Driver (My father) has 8-10 years of driving experience within Canada, clean record.
    Truck: 07 Columbia with approx market value of $25k
    Operations: 400 Miles radius from Toronto Hauling dry van
    Cargo Insurance for $250k and Liability insurance for $1MM.
    New CVOR

    I will also add a driver and trailer.
    The quote I got is : $13332/year.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    $150,000 (cdn$) cargo is plenty, unless you have one customer that has lots of work and requires more. Usually not worth the extra yearly premium for extra cargo insurance. Cargo amount drives up the premium very quickly. Freight theft, and such.

    Why are you limiting the radius for work? That quote would be good if it was unlimited radius. Who are you using for getting a quote? Does that quote include a trailer valued at x? And also include your dad as the driver?
     
  4. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    Yes, my dad is included as a driver. No trailer right now.

    We will start with operating within Ontario and Quebec only. Some of the large carriers like TransX, Bison, XTL broker their loads and require $250k cargo and I would like to take some of their loads.
     
  5. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Oh that is not only 400 miles but that is Canada only as well? The high cargo amount is driving it up faster than I figured it would. I have hauled 1 load for TX and 1 load for Bison and neither of them required 250k cargo.

    When you add the trailer and whatever it is valued at, old maybe 8 grand new could be 65 grand, will add more to that premium... you don't have the full picture yet. Has your broker asked you to estimate what you will be hauling, as a percentage of yearly loads, and their approximate values? They should be asking you this.

    One other thing, are your customers going to be requiring trailers be no more than 10 years old at the most? Something else to consider. Common in the dry van world.
     
  6. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    I will ask my broker to lower the Cargo and see what the premium is. My mechanic is selling a dry van for $1300. Do customers require newer trailers?

    I have given my broker what I will be hauling, the percentage and values.
     
  7. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    When I did dry van a bunch of years ago lots of the places required 10 years old maximum. That was mainly auto parts related work. I can't really speak for everything else. $1300 is very inexpensive. My thinking is what is wrong with it? The thing is when they get old enough, forklifts sometimes fall through the floor. That is what has led to the age requirement.
     
  8. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    I will check that out and will let you know.

    Any other tips for me to get insurance. I was going to go with Schneider but decided not to proceed. And now my only focus is own operations.
     
  9. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Get at least 3 or 4 quotes.
     
  10. haider99

    haider99 Medium Load Member

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    Broker sent to 4 different companies.

    1 - rejected because of new venture
    1 - rejected because of distance
    1 - 15332 quote with 50k cargo
    1 - 13330 quote with $250k
     
  11. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Yeah, all brokers will send your quote to 4 companies and 2 of them have no interest in you because they only deal with companies with 5 or more trucks. There are only 2 companies that will insure you. It's a Canada thing. Old Republic will likely be the best choice. I use them.

    Usually most brokers require $100k cargo. I do $150 because that covers my odd meat load and also over the $100k usd considering the currency conversion. I had a customer that required $500k and it would have been an additional $8000 yearly above the $150k rate I pay now. It was not worth it in the end.

    The insurance companies will send all the same rate to the broker and then the broker will add whatever their surcharge is and give you the quote. You are not allowed to deal directly with an insurance company by law.
     
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