Is this Holland 5th wheel open?

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  1. wr2001

    wr2001 Light Load Member

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    Got this 5th wheel super cheap now I'm wondering if its open. The arm is pulled all the way out so in that regards its open but before I hook up I'd like to make sure. The 5th wheel on my Cascadia is clear with no hook in the way like this Holland 5th...[​IMG]
     
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  3. DUNE-T

    DUNE-T Road Train Member

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    Get a hammer and open it
     
  4. CasanovaCruiser

    CasanovaCruiser Road Train Member

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    Just by looking at it the kingpin should hit that first catch sticking out and the latch that's slightly hidden will rotate around and lock in place

    Just my guess
     
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  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    It's a hook. That hook should rotate and be driven by a spring to lock into place.

    Grab a lead pipe a 6 footer or more. Jam it into that thing and see if it will lock. BE READY to let that #### pipe go... it will try to kill you and anyone and everyone near. DON'T stand on top of that stupid wheel and do that pipe vertically. It will whip and throw you a hundred yards. Do it from the back... Like a trailer does.

    That is a huge amount of grease. You need it in three locations, either side of the hole just ahead of the angle plates to the rear and a dab in front of the hole.

    Another test to see if it's a bad hook, grab a loaded trailer take off with it onto the road. If that fifth wheel slops back and forth like a loose ... it's needing work.
     
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  6. mnmover

    mnmover Road Train Member

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    No not open, take a crowbar and push the locking piece back over to the side and it should be ready to latch around a trailer's kingpin. Had this happen a few times.
     
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  7. AModelCat

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    I would take a stab at it and say it is unlocked. If that piece you see across the throat of the 5th wheel is the lock jaw, it probably needs a rebuild because it looks pretty f'd up IMO.
     
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  8. wr2001

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    Thanks for the input guys. I found out it was open through a youtube video.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. boneebone

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    On a SAF-Holland Fifth Wheel, to determine if it is Locked or Open, you need to look at the Front Adjustment Bolt for the Jaws on the front leading edge of the Fifth Wheel.

    If the Adjustment Bolt is sticking out and the Rubber Washer is not flush with the front face of the Fifth Wheel, it's Unlocked.

    If the Rubber Washer and Adjustment Bolt is tight against the front face of the Fifth Wheel, it's Locked.

    SAF-Holland purposely designed it that way so all you need to do is take a glance at it to determine its status.
     
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