No 34 hour reset ever needed ?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Desperado, May 3, 2008.

  1. Desperado

    Desperado <strong>The Bandit</strong>

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    Another driver mentioned to me that he only runs 8 hours a day with 3/4 hours on line 4 every day and never has to do a reset .

    He keeps on driving while others sit doing a 34 reset and gets more miles done every week .

    What do you drivers think ? Opinions ? I believe driving till I need a reset is going to give me more miles weekly and time to do as I want .

    Thinking ....... :smt064
     
  2. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    No reset is required. How ever lets do a little math.


    8 hrs per day x 7 days per week. Not likely to happen but for the sake of argument lets just say....

    8x7x55 MPH average = 3080

    10 hrs per day, 6 days a week with a reset at the same 55 MPH average

    10x6x55 = 3300 miles per week.



    No week is going to be the exact same, week after week. But like so many steering wheel holders that have not done the math but just blow it out their butt he is wrong on his miles per week figures. He is correct on there is no requirement to take a reset.




    All hours worked, miles per hour, and days per week worked are just averages. I believe them to be pretty close to accurate to my OWN experiences.
     
  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Our resident log lady, LogsRus, would be the one to ask about that.
     
  4. Markk9

    Markk9 <strong>"On your mark"</strong>

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    When I drove OTR, I only logged around 8.75 a day. It was never exactly 8.75, I logged between 8 to 9 a day. I never had to do a reset that way.

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    bigredinternational Light Load Member

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    Only OTR companies I know of want 16 hours of driving everyday.
     
  6. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    I think both Mack and Brickman are correct.

    But LogsRus will almost certainly be able to give the right answer. So far, I've yet to find a place where she was wrong - even on issues that are not in the FMCSR (such as <ahem> Jury Duty. )

    If I read the FMCSR correctly, you need the 34 hour reset when you use up your 70 (or 60) hours. If you don't use them up, you can get away without ever having a reset.

    But you get fewer miles driving only 8 hours a day...

    Let's refine Brickeman's post a bit, though.

    Instead of 8 hours a day, try driving 9. That's 63 hours/7 days. 9*55=495. To be generous, that's 500 miles a day. 500 * 7 days = 3500 miles/ week. 200 miles more per week than a 10-hour driver. That's over $4000 per year.

    To get the miles WITH a reset, you need 10.5 hours driving per day.

    Off the cuff, I think I'd prefer the reset (speaking as a newbie, of course). Spend a full day in a motel (if not at home, of course), loafing around, watching the tube. Maybe taking in a ball game if I'm in a MLB city. Anything to get out of the truck for a bit.
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone <strong>"Village Idiot"</strong>

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    You may get more miles. You may not. It's a coin toss.

    There are weeks I do an average of 8 or 9 hours a day. Other weeks I do everything I can get. It works out about the same.

    Dispatch will have the final say as to the number of miles you get, regardless of how many hours you WANT to drive.
     
  8. Ohnoo

    Ohnoo Light Load Member

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    Very true theres a big diffrents between what you want to do, can do, and end up doing.
     
  9. LogsRus

    LogsRus <strong>"Log it Legal"</strong>

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    I agree with the above it's more realistic!

    If you think about trucking as construction:yes2557: If there is a load you take it, run with the hours available instead of averaging 9 hours a day. Then "if" there is no freight and you are stuck 34 hours you are not stressing over hte miles because you already have your miles in. If freight isn't bad then hey take 34 hours and you are on the road again! You should need a 34 hour period to your self anyhow (really 24 since 10 is your 10 hour break you needed anyhow!).

    Just my humble opinion! Take the loads while they are there and roll with the load! Get it delivered (LEGALLY) and get ready for the next (LEGALLY).
     
  10. LogsRus

    LogsRus <strong>"Log it Legal"</strong>

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    To confirm one mis understanding some have on the 60/70 hour rule:

    You do NOT have to do a 34 hour restart (36 hours if you are going into Canada). You still gain the hours you worked the 1st of the last 7 days.

    If I worked

    1. 10.5
    2. 9.5
    3. 12.75
    4. 6.75
    5. 11.00
    6. 9.25
    7. 8.25

    Total last 7 days is 68 hours

    Meaning for today I have 2 hours of driving available.

    What I would do is wait until 10:00 pm tonight and leave because I have 2 hours for todays log available but I am gaining whats on line 1 (10.5 hours) so I will work my 11 & 14 hour and take a 10 hour break and start late again tomorrow.

    So you gain every night what's on line 1 of your recap (if you have the same recap as I do, l.o.l. which is the most common sense one:biggrin_25519:

    Does this help clarify?

    Now I have been wrong before so I am not perfect! Jury duty was just common sense and still the vote will be determined by asking another big chief person in the dot office, but I still feel I am right. Just common sense you are serving a duty for the state and pay does not justify logging at all times! :biggrin_25513:

    But thanks for the confidence, I will be needing plenty of that in the coming weeks/months