Non CDL Straight Truck, Need a Logbook, Med. Card?

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  1. ickeyiskewl

    ickeyiskewl Light Load Member

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    I will say this much if you driver over 150 AIR miles from your home terminal you have to log it period . Your one and only saving grace is if you punch a clock before you leave on your route. I almost got a nice 400 buck ticket in Indiana athte 33 interchange of the indy pike ...they dot guy was gonna fry me till he figured out i didnt need a log book but had one and gave it to him like an idiot . I didnt need one excpet the boss required but DOT didn't go figure that one. I am from Ohio too lol ..
     
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    All the info is ALMOST correct. You do need a log book and are subject to HOS for any commercial vehicle over 10,000lbs with any class of license. If you do not have a CDL, and are driving a vehicle under 26,000lbs, you do NOT need a medical card. Since you have a Class B license, even though you are in a class C truck, you DO need a medical card (in any vehicle over 10,000 GVW actually).
     
  3. misterG

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    All commercial motor vehicle operators must carry an up to date health card. Even if driving less than CDL required vehicles.

    Just ask me how I know. I dare you.

    I'll even help you out. I was a chauffeur for 4 years. All chauffeurs are required to have health cards. We were operating commercial vehicles.
     
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    Hmmm, that must vary by state then. At least in CA, no med card required for class C drivers driving 10K-26k GVW commercial. Only need a Med if you have a CDL and are driving 10K GVW and +

    Not familiar with passenger endorsement requirements.
     
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    Nope, the med card is a federal requirement.
    If your driving without one, pray you don't get pulled over.
     
  6. SheepDog

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    Dang,,,get a little confusing....
    I am looking into hotshoting... I am looking at a Ford E350 cargo van with an 8.5 x 16 enclosed trailer. GVWR of said van is 13,000 and the trailer is 7000 So, do I need to follow the same rules I do for my current CDL A?

    Thanks,,
     
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    Sheepdog, If the combination weighs over 26K, a cdl is required. If the trailer in the combination has a gvwr of 10k or more, A cdl A would be required. Looks like you have a combination weight rating of 20k, so you don't need a cdl. But you will be driving a commercial motor vehicle since you are over 10k, and thus subject to hos, and d/a testing and ALL the other stuff.
     
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    To clarify,, the GVWR on the van is 9400lbs not 13K... but, since I will be pulling another vehicle, that will definetly have a GVWR of more than 600lbs, will that still make me subject to HOS and what not?
     
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    Gvwr is the key.
     
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    Thanks Roadmedic,,,I think I have it now... Since the Van will have a GVWR of 9400lbs I wont fall under the rules required for a vehicle with a GVWR of 10,001 Regardless of the trailer,,,Right?