oil pump/Detroit engine failure on 2013 Freightliner - ADVICE NEEDED!

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  1. daytonaoh

    daytonaoh Bobtail Member

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    a low-mileage 2013 Freightliner was serviced by a major oil change franchise, with all oils and filters changed or topped off. The truck was deemed in tip-top condition. But within minutes of leaving the shop's location its Detroit engine blew up. The Freightliner dealer's technicians inspected the truck, and determined that the most likely cause of engine failure was oil pump's failure. At the same time, they also stated that the oil pump (and the engine) did not have any recalls and did not have any manufacturer's defects. Since the truck is fairly new, low-mileage, and did not have any problems before being serviced, yet after service had the catastrophic failure, it appears to be solely the fault of the oil change franchise.

    Who has had similar experience at any oil shop franchise and what are the suggestions in dealing with the situation?

    Also, who knows how could an oil change and other basic maintenance ruin the oil pump in a Detroit engine?

    Meanwhile, what can the engine codes reveal? As far as I understand they are useless, as they can't pin the blame on anyone - they just show if this or that failed.

    Thanks for all advice.
     
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  3. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    Did they dump a gallon of lucas in, it is so thick it can block the flow until mixed with oil.
     
  4. daytonaoh

    daytonaoh Bobtail Member

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    The oil they used is described on the invoice as SH:RO15W40 BULK. Since the engine was not leaking and did not have any problems - except being due for basic service, oil change - why would they use Lucas? It is not denoted anywhere on the invoice, at least.

    Also, note that there were no error codes at the time of failure. And we know there were no leaks of oil after the failure, either.
     
  5. styenchko

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    Using Lucas on a newer Detroit will void the warranty. Right there in the manual, and most techs know that. But if it really was an oil pump failure the ecm would have shut the truck off before it siezed. Pretty sure that engine has an start-idle rpm lock that waits for the oil pressure to rise, so you can't even rev it on the pedal for a few seconds.

    Should be a code related to the oil pressure if really was the pump failing. But I would also look and see if those filters were unwrapped before installation.
     
  6. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    buddy can you say exactly what is happened ? you have a window on block, valve broke down? ........?
     
  7. daytonaoh

    daytonaoh Bobtail Member

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    The dealer says that the oil pump led to the engine breakdown. Now the entire engine need replacement. I do not know if any valve broke down.
     
  8. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    engine breakdown ? buddy I am asking what is happened exactly. bad rings? bad bushings? ...?
     
  9. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    ok..you need to open the oil pan and inspect the bushings. if you run engine without oil first thing you will have bad worn crankshaft bushings. when oil pumps fails pressure goes down and 99% ecm shuts down engine. is it possible they added non engine oil in your truck ?
     
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  10. Chip S

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    Have them check ddec reports and see max engine speed. Did they change fuel filters? I am going to guess that they changed the fuel filters, did a dirty job, got an injector or two hung up, oversped the engine and spun a bearing
     
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  11. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    On a DD15 you cannot change both the oil and fuel filters at the same time or this will happen. You do one, start the engine, make sure everything is up to snuff. Shut 'er down, do the other, start it back up, good to go.
     
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