Pre employment dot drug test

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  1. mnjason

    mnjason Bobtail Member

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    I have just recently failed a Pre employment dot drug test for THc. I work construction jobs hauling material to job sites and only work 6 or 7 months out of the year and spend the rest of my time on Unemployment. I have never smoked pot while im in the working season.

    OK so heres my question, My cdl has been disqualified for a year for a dwi i got with my class d licence about six months ago so technicly i really dont have a class a anymore. will this Pre employment dot drug test still go on my record? and if so what can i do to fight this?

    Also i was applying for a job running a crusher and was hired i stated to them that i did not have my class a anymore and wasent looking for a trucking job. i really just wanted to try a year out with new company making material. So should i have even been given a dot test? all the info i find on the web is for vaild cdls.

    Im getting a little scared here.
     
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    Many companies do drug testing on applicants for the following reasons, as illicit drug using employees will have problems that non-drug users will not have:

    Scientists have learned a great deal about how THC acts in the brain to produce its many effects. When someone smokes marijuana, THC rapidly passes from the lungs into the bloodstream, which carries the chemical to the brain and other organs throughout the body.
    THC acts upon specific sites in the brain, called cannabinoid receptors, kicking off a series of cellular reactions that ultimately lead to the "high" that users experience when they smoke marijuana. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. The highest density of cannabinoid receptors are found in parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thinking, concentrating, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.1
    Not surprisingly, marijuana intoxication can cause distorted perceptions, impaired coordination, difficulty with thinking and problemsolving, and problems with learning and memory. Research has shown that, in chronic users, marijuana's adverse impact on learning and memory can last for days or weeks after the acute effects of the drug wear off.2 As a result, someone who smokes marijuana every day may be functioning at a suboptimal intellectual level all of the time.
    Research into the effects of long-term cannabis use on the structure of the brain has yielded inconsistent results. It may be that the effects are too subtle for reliable detection by current techniques. A similar challenge arises in studies of the effects of chronic marijuana use on brain function. Brain imaging studies in chronic users tend to show some consistent alterations, but their connection to impaired cognitive functioning is far from clear. This uncertainty may stem from confounding factors such as other drug use, residual drug effects, or withdrawal symptoms in long-term chronic users.
    Addictive Potential

    Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction; that is, compulsive drug seeking and abuse despite the known harmful effects upon functioning in the context of family, school, work, and recreational activities. Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to marijuana; this number increases among those who start young (to about 17 percent) and among daily users (25-50 percent).
    Long-term marijuana abusers trying to quit report withdrawal symptoms including: irritability, sleeplessness, decreased appetite, anxiety, and drug craving, all of which can make it difficult to remain abstinent. These symptoms begin within about 1 day following abstinence, peak at 2-3 days, and subside within 1 or 2 weeks following drug cessation.3
    Marijuana and Mental Health

    A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and increased rates of anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia. Some of these studies have shown age at first use to be an important risk factor, where early use is a marker of increased vulnerability to later problems. However, at this time, it is not clear whether marijuana use causes mental problems, exacerbates them, or reflects an attempt to self-medicate symptoms already in existence.
    Chronic marijuana use, especially in a very young person, may also be a marker of risk for mental illnesses - including addiction - stemming from genetic or environmental vulnerabilities, such as early exposure to stress or violence. Currently, the strongest evidence links marijuana use and schizophrenia and/or related disorders.4 High doses of marijuana can produce an acute psychotic reaction; in addition, use of the drug may trigger the onset or relapse of schizophrenia in vulnerable individuals.
    What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?

    Effects on the Heart
    Marijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug.5 This may be due to increased heart rate as well as the effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in aging populations or in those with cardiac vulnerabilities.
    Effects on the Lungs
    Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increase the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. Marijuana smokers show dysregulated growth of epithelial cells in their lung tissue, which could lead to cancer;6 however, a recent case-controlled study found no positive associations between marijuana use and lung, upper respiratory, or upper digestive tract cancers.7 Thus, the link between marijuana smoking and these cancers remains unsubstantiated at this time.
    Nonetheless, marijuana smokers can have many of the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers, such as daily cough and phlegm production, more frequent acute chest illness, and a heightened risk of lung infections. A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers.8 Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses.
    Effects on Daily Life
    Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. In one study, heavy marijuana abusers reported that the drug impaired several important measures of life achievement, including physical and mental health, cognitive abilities, social life, and career status.9 Several studies associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover.
     
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    Find another vocation. Even with a negative UA, you're not getting a job at any significant trucking company with a recent DWI. Sorry, dude, but that's how the industry works.
     
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    Probably need to get a green card and work for Swift, Werner or Prime until the dust settles.
     
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    you probabely get all the same symptoms and problems if you masturbate everyday as well--whats next?
    a chastity belt?
     
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    Not trying to start anything but I am curious about this. Why take a drug test knowing you have the possibility to fail it? If your going to fail a drug test wouldn't it be easier to tell the company that your start date can't be until 15-30 days to provide you time to get clean? Most company's want drug testing (That I've seen) as close to the start date as possible. I may be wrong in your situation but just a thought / curious.
     
  7. CondoCruiser

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    Post is a little confusing. Sounds like you been driving at least a year with a CDL, yet you got a DUI 6 months ago with a class D????

    DOT requires trucking operations to do a background check including drug test results. That doesn't mean a non-driving job does. The way a trucking company finds out you failed a drug test is they check with your previous employer after you sign a waiver and they do a background check.The DWI is on your MVR.

    You can pretty much say your driving for money is on hold for 7 years. You can get a non-driving job and not disclose the company you got in trouble with. Say you were unemployed, self employed or something. You can get away with it on a nondriving job, but not a driving job. They will find out.

    Hope you learned your lesson. Pot ain't worth losing your livelyhood. Nowadays you can't have it both ways. Do you want to party or do you want to work??
     
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    i will try to clear up my question>>>
    My CDL is diqualified for a dwi i picked up in my personal vehical and i have another 6 months before i could even think about driving rig again. The job i was applying for was with a road construction company making gravel/ opperating a crushing plant in a pit. So i guess what im asking is if this failed test will still go record when my CDL has been diqualifed for 6 months and have another 6 months to wait befor its reinstated.? I was just wondering if anyone has heard of somthing like this happening before.


    To me it just dont make any sense why it would. the state sent me a letter telling me that im no longer a Commercial driver so how does it figure that i could be punished for this.
     
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    Does the letter state why you are disqualified? I would think it's from the DWI.
     
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    Yes, in most cases, the CDL portion of a license is disqualified and the person maintains the ability to drive a car or truck, usually for work or whatever. The problems isn't getting it reinstated, btu the fact that no major, and most smaller trucking companies will hire you because of the DWI - period. Add in a failed UA, and you might as well write off driving anything for a living for quite a while.