Very few companies have this available and remember sometimes when we pick up the company is as small as the trailer anyways. The expense of a scraper is unreasonable and not thier problem. Thxs to companies such as P&G and Wal Mart just to name a couple that do try to limit the ice and snow problem.
Received ticket for ice falling off trailer in NJ
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It's a problem that needs to be addressed. All these states are thinking about is revenue.They could care less about the feelings of truckers. It's really getting ridiculous
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I would fight it as well.
However, ice on the roof of a trailer is nothing like a burned out headlight. You can fix a burned out headlight without endangering your life. The same cannot be said for climbing to the top of an icy trailer roof. -
true but ive burned one out replaced it and had to stop at a wally world because it burned out again on the same night
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seems like jersey is just trying to bag you early for a proposed bill. actually just saw this on the news this morning ( i live in ny myself). news said that this has been on the books for a while as far as cars are concerned, but is now being proposed for trucks as well.
heres more
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Here are a few pictures of ice removed from a trailer at a cost of $115 at the TA Truckstop in Bloomsbury, NJ.
I don't know how to link to another thread but here is what I posted in it to go with these pictures.
I'm pleading not guilty. It is my opinion that the current Statute that they are using "loading so as to spill" is an improperly used violation, that they are using to get the ball rolling towards the new law that they really want to implement. I spoke to a CT State Trooper and he says that Connecticut is also using a simular Statute per the Prosecuter, but only if snow blows off the trailer AND causes an accident or damage.
This week I had to shell out $115 to clear ice off a trailer at the TA truckstop in Bloomsbury, NJ for fear of recieving another ticket. I had to go through the hassle of procuring authorization to travel 40 miles from my company to get there without fear of being responsible for another ticket enroute. Initially I was told it was my problem. I told night dispatch it's your problem because I'm not pulling an ice laden trailer if I'm expected to pay for the ticket. The Nightshift balked at first but then covered my butt realizing that it was the only option available, after asking me to bump hard against a dock door and spiking the brakes to see it that would work.
I had a good laugh when I was told to try this. It was 15 degrees out and knew from experience that nothing would shift as it was frozen solid to an aluminum roof. The only ice that fell from the trailer was when I first entered NJ from PA on that well known rough portion of I78.
Anyone know someone willing to take this case pro bono, OOIDA?Attached Files:
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Cibergal posted a link under the heading of Ice Missiles that may help with this http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/ci_11581788
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January 27, 2009
New Jersey bill mandating snow-free vehicles advances
A bill on the move in New Jersey would get tough with drivers who fail to clear snow and ice off their vehicles. The rule would apply to commercial and non-commercial vehicles.
The Assembly Transportation, Public Works and Independent Authorities Committee unanimously approved a bill Monday, Jan. 26, that would permit police to pull over drivers whose vehicles were not cleared of snow and ice. The bill - S520 - now moves to the Assembly floor for further consideration. If approved there, it would head back to the Senate for approval of changes before advancing to Gov. Jon Corzine's desk.
State law now prohibits car and truck drivers from being fined for driving a snowcapped vehicle. However, if a piece of ice falls from a vehicle and causes injury or property damage, car drivers face fines between $200 and $1,000, while truck drivers could be fined $500 to $1,500.
Sponsored by Senate Transportation Chairman Nicholas Sacco, D-North Bergen, the bill would make drivers responsible for making "all reasonable efforts to remove accumulated ice or snow from the motor vehicle, including the hood, trunk and roof prior to operation."
Violators would face fines between $25 and $75. No points would be assessed against the driver's license.
Trucking industry officials say the rule would be nearly impossible to comply with. They also cite concerns about requiring people to climb atop large vehicles to remove snow or ice.
Joe Rajkovacz, regulatory affairs specialist for the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, said the bill sets drivers up to fail.
"There is no way physically possible to accomplish this task. It's inconceivable to pass a law where truckers are preordained to fail," Rajkovacz told Land Line.
Drivers would not be liable for snow or ice that accumulates on a vehicle while out on the road. Advocates for the restriction say they don't want to substitute one dangerous practice for another by requiring drivers to pull to the side of the road during a storm solely to clean their vehicles.
Sacco said the bill is intended to require that "all drivers must make every reasonable effort to remove accumulated ice or snow on the hood, trunk and roof of their vehicles."
In hopes of appeasing the trucking industry, the bill was amended to allow a 90-day grace period to give truck operations time to comply with the rule. Revenue from fines would be routed into a special fund to build snow removal facilities for trucks at state-run weigh stations and to promote awareness of the law.
Rajkovacz wasn't backing off his disdain for the bill.
"If New Jersey is that concerned about this issue, the state should first build the removal facilities, not accumulate fines and then build the facilities," Rajkovacz said.
- By Keith Goble, state legislative editoR
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When I was home for time off this weekend, I was watching television and came across this story:
In the end, truck driver was not cited.
Link to the video if they let me:
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I agree. They were probably following too close as well.
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