Stop stopping for school buses !

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tscottme, Oct 26, 2016.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    In my state, and the states I drive in, you don't stop for a school bus with it's stop lights flashing on a4-lane, or more, divided highways with a physical median or barrier, such as concrete wall or raised concrete median. A grass median is a barrier and counts the same as a Jersey wall, for example. Cars & trucks are stopping because they don't know the rule. Obviously once the jackwad in front of you stops you have to stop. But I was beside a dump truck today on a road exactly like a divided interstate highway, with a wide grass median between opposite direction traffic. He smoked his brakes trying to stop for a school bus going the opposite direction. SMDH!

    I've looked up the actual legal code in the state this occurred, which is the same as my home state. It's only a matter of time before some nitwit calls in to complain with my truck & trailer number.

    The rule is if the there is any sort of barrier to traffic, Jersey wall, grass median, raised curb on a 4 lane divided highway DON"T STOP FOR OPPOSITE DIRECTION SCHOOL BUS. If there is just a painted line or turning lane, you DO stop. Before you believe the law is different in another state ask to see that law. "Everybody knows" is not a law.
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Here is a sample from Alabama code.
    Alabama Code Title 32. Motor Vehicles and Traffic. § 32-5A-154
    (d) The driver of a vehicle upon a divided highway having four or more lanes which permits at least two lanes of traffic to travel in opposite directions need not stop the vehicle upon meeting a school or church bus which is stopped in the opposing roadway or if the school or church bus is stopped in a loading zone which is a part of or adjacent to such highway and where pedestrians are not permitted to cross the roadway.
    http://codes.findlaw.com/al/title-32-motor-vehicles-and-traffic/al-code-sect-32-5a-154.html
     
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  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    If the road looks like this, STOP for school bus, no matter which way it's going.
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    If the road looks like these, DON"T STOP for school bus going opposite direction.

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  5. roadrunningx18

    roadrunningx18 Light Load Member

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    In New Mexico, even the emergency responders shut down lights and sirens,
    New Mexico Statutes > Chapter 66 > Article 7 > Part 4 > § 66-7-347
    New Mexico Statutes 66-7-347. Overtaking and passing school bus
    Current as of: 2015 | Check for updates | Other versions
    (1978)
    A. The driver of a vehicle upon approaching or overtaking from either direction any school bus which has stopped on the roadway, with special school bus signals in operation, for the purpose of receiving or discharging any school children, shall stop the vehicle at least ten feet before reaching the school bus and shall not proceed until the special school bus signals are turned off, the school bus resumes motion or until signaled by the driver to proceed.
    B. Every bus used for the transportation of school children shall bear upon the front and rear thereof a plainly visible sign containing the words “School Bus” in letters not less than eight inches in height.
    C. The driver of a vehicle upon a highway with separate roadways need not stop upon meeting or passing a school bus which is on a different roadway or when upon a controlled-access highway and the school bus is stopped in a loading zone which is a part of or adjacent to such highway and where pedestrians are not permitted to cross the roadway.
    History: 1953 Comp., § 64-7-347, enacted by Laws 1978, ch. 35, § 451.

    Yes, kids shouldn't be walking towards a divided highway barrier, but.... their ball, pet, best/girl friend jumped it.
    Do you really wanna be that guy? "just saying"
     
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  6. roadrunningx18

    roadrunningx18 Light Load Member

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    great illustrations, gracias!
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    In Michigan if there is a physical barrier between traffic lanes, you don't stop. If there isn't, you stop.

    The biggest two problems we have here is this

    One is people stopping on a freeway for emergency vehicles, you DON'T stop.

    The other is stopping at every intersection when the lights are out. We are supposed to stop at major intersections. A lot of rear end accidents happen because no one gets you don't stop.
     
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  8. CrappieJunkie

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    Ohio you stop if lights are out. Truet me. I got pulled over one night because of it.
     
  9. Raezzor

    Raezzor Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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    Not if it's as described in OP. Ohio state law is the same. If it's divided with some sort of barrier you don't have to stop.
     
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    We spend $13,000 per student per year. They play dodge ball during school hours. I say, let them pretend the world is a real life game of Frogger.
     
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  11. KANSAS TRANSIT

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    Thanks for bringing up the subject, and I have only stopped on a "divided (non-barrier) highway.

    With that said I did run into a somewhat similar situation a couple of weeks ago with a heavy haul unit coming at me.

    This was on a 2 lane road with wide shoulders in northern Indiana (think double wide territory) I was heading west with no one in front of me this is coming up on a very small town, really just a wide spot in the road with a little strip mall on the north side.

    At any rate, up ahead I spot an east bound wide load coming at me WITH a state Police escort, lights all a blaze, I slow to about 30, speed limit was 45, and I inch over onto the shoulder a bit, wide load had plenty of room but I did notice some mail boxes coming up on his side.

    Would have been no issue and I would NOT have stopped for the SP escort, just roll on past, except this time a small pickup pulls out of the strip mall and turns into my lane traveling west also, sees the escort and locks them up, now I have no where to go because he literally pulled out in front of me, I got stopped because I was covering the brake when I saw him coming out, but that could have been bad.

    I have never read, or been told about having to stop for a police escort on a wide load, and I have been out here a while, just never ran into that situation before, thoughts, experiences?, Heavy Haul guys? sorry to the OP for hijacking the thread.
     
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