Super 10 to RTOO swap

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  1. K&A Trucking LLC

    K&A Trucking LLC Bobtail Member

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    I have a '99 379 with a 3406E and a Stupid 10 behind it. Rear gears are 390's. NOT a good mileage or high speed combination. I plan on returning to the Oilfields when the price of oil goes back up so I wish to retain the 46,000lb axles and the 390 gears. With that said, I am on the road for as long as it takes, and even though fuel is reasonably priced, 65mph at 1500rpm is not great. At 75mph I'm running 1850rpm. I believe than a 13-"double over" will be the solution I am seeking. Has anyone done this swap recently? What are the torque specs for a RTOO11613 or a RTOO14613?? with the stupid 10 the torque is low being that the Super-10 tranny is a turd. Any help would be great! Thank you
     
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  3. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    My 13 speed has a torque rating of 1850
     
  4. strollinruss

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    The fuel mileage is affected by speed. That little super 10 has a pretty big OD from what I recall. The truck I had one in had 4:11 gears and would walk with the big boys. I truly believe your fuel mileage will drop with a double over 13sp. Plus you lose your low hole (I think). I've got a 15 sp with 390s.
     
  5. 062

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    The torque rating is the first two numbers,11=1150 14=1450.
    It takes more power to turn a big overdrive gear,than direct. So you may not save as much fuel as you think.
    Also most likely have to shorten drive shaft.
     
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  6. Diesel Dave

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    When do you think oil prices will go back up ? Also your looking for a RTLO series transmission.
     
  7. K&A Trucking LLC

    K&A Trucking LLC Bobtail Member

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    From what I have researched it should be a RT0011613 or an RT0014613. I spent 10yrs working in Western Colorado, the Front Range of Colorado, 5 winters in NoDak and some time down in the Eagleford Shale of Texas. AT LEAST another 2-3yrs is what I am expecting.
     
  8. K&A Trucking LLC

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    4.2mpg is about the best I can muster out of this pig, these older Cats are higher rpm than the C-15. I've driven at 65mph for 400 gal of fuel and then 75mph at 1850rpm across Nebraska and Wyoming with even worse fuel mileage. Something has to give. To change the pinion gears in both diffs will cost the same as a transmission, I have to do something.
     
  9. K&A Trucking LLC

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    What is your average with the 15? Are you running a 15 over?
     
  10. K&A Trucking LLC

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    It sounds to me as though my best bet is to bench these 390's and go with 330 or 355's. They aren't much for a set of remanufactured differentials and I'm going back to an 18spd, these 10spd turds are entirely too much shifting back and forth, too low of rpm then too much rpm.
     
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    What size tire are you running?
     
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