Need some help on TMC trucks

Discussion in 'TMC' started by BulletProof, May 17, 2014.

  1. BulletProof

    BulletProof Medium Load Member

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    The main reason I'm considering buying a TMC truck is because I know how they are about keeping their trucks in good shape vs some of the other megas. No way would I touch something like a schneider or swift truck if they gave it to me because I have looked into their maintenance plans and it seems like they don't care if drivers beat the hell out of them. I know that new guys fresh out of school drive at TMC and they probably aren't the best drivers so the trucks take a little more abuse than they should. But, if you look at a comparable truck at a dealer or that is privately for sale, they want 70k for it and my budget for a truck, trailer, paying my fees to get started, and 10k for fuel for the first month is only 80k. So you see a 70k truck would be out of the question.

    Most of them are around 900k miles. If I can get 1 year out of it before an in-frame then that will be fine. I've actually seen them sell a few that have already had the in-frame done so if they had one like that I would go for it but they don't like to release a trucks maintenance records for liability reasons.

    I want a Peterbilt. Not just because it is a sexy truck. It is a business decision. Sure I could go buy a 2009 freightshaker for 20k with 500k miles but in 2 years I wouldn't be able to get 15k for it. You can pay 40k for a pete and in 10 years still get 40k back if you sell it if you kept it nice and didn't beat on it. Seeing as how TMC is the only company that I know of that runs Petes and sells them, they are my first choice. They tend to be more expensive when you buy them from a dealer. As a matter of fact, our local used dealer just got a very nice pete in. I got on the website to look at the price. It's a 98 379 with a Detroit S60 and a 10 speed with 1,700,000k miles and they want $40k for it. TMC has their 06 petes with 900k for $40k and cheaper.

    I would go with a 24.5 so that would probably help a little. I really don't want to buy a truck and have to go changing the rear end gears but if I can get one from TMC and change the rears cheaper than I can buy one already spec'd with a lower gear then there is no questioning which choice would be better. Rear ends have to be changed/rebuilt eventually and I would hate to spend more on a truck with lower gears and end up having to rebuild the rear anyways when I could have spent less and still swapped the rears out and had brand new rears.
     
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  3. BulletProof

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  4. Red Rocket 1964

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    0.74 is the typical 13 o.d. ratio 0.73 for 10 speed
     
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  5. BulletProof

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    Thanks that is what I was looking for. If I put 11R24.5's on it that would put me at 67mph at 1400rpm and 72mph at 1500rpm with the 0.74 ratio and 3.55 rears. I can live with that. And I'm sure swapping over to the 24.5's would be cheaper than changing rear gears.

    Without changing the tires and keeping the 22.5LP's I would be at 1600rpm at 70mph. That sounds like a good way to make an engine come apart.
     
  6. Derailed

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    I considered looking at one of there trucks but couldn't get passed the thought of dropping 40 on a truck that has never been apart with a million on the clock and may need an in frame in the near future. For that kind of money you can find yourself a hell of a nice pre emissions truck if you look around.
     
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    Mug was different on my 2 that I drove. One was in the 5.9 range almost all the time. Hand calculated for that truck. That was my first one and it had 3.36 rears, the next was my specialized truck with 3.55 gears and 2 old get around d 6.3-7 depending. With those 3.36 gears I would be turning around 1290 RPM iirc at 62. Really your mpg will depend on which truck you get. Before you buy it get the elm readout from them and what they have for the , lifetime MPG in there system. Also, if you ask for it they will give you the complete papers for every PM they have done to the truck along with anything they ever fixed. The we're very detailed about everything, I use to get a printout whenever I would get a pm just to see what else they did. Pretty much every truck they have got the Trans rebuilt right around the 750 K miles along with clutch and all that good stuff. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one of there old trucks. They may go 40 K between services but they never half ***ed anything when it came to fixing or preventive maintenance.
     
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    Most of the trucks had been apart for top end head work. Just look at the block, the have it written right on there with the date and miles.
     
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  9. BulletProof

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    Its not so much the mpg that I'm worried about. Its the RPMs at 70mph. I'm about to start running a lot of Texas stuff and I went down to los indios this week. Even in my 70mph truck I might as well have been in a swift truck in the 75mph zones. Our stuff runs for a car manufacturer so our deadlines are tight. It has to be there and it has to be on time and they pay enough that the offset in mpg lost wont be a factor.

    Everything on their site says they all have 3.55 rear gears. Maybe they have some with the 3.36 rears but just put the 3.55 on the website because most of them are 3.55? I guess I will have to call and ask to see if they have any with 3.36 rears.

    As far as getting printouts on maintenance and repairs, from what I've read on here and other places, people have trouble getting the printouts because of the liability. If they replaced a steer sector and hand you a sheet of paper that says they did and you go down the road and it locks up and you wreck, they are in a lawsuit. I am going to make sure I can get all the records before I make the drive/flight up there and waste time.

    Derailed, most of the pre-EGR trucks I find are way more expensive than 40k or they aren't set up the way I want it as far as trans, engine, sleeper, etc.
     
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    I should have put in my post that the tires I have are 22.5's.
     
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  11. Richter

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    This is precicly why i dont recommended your first truck be a 379 pete. TMC sells trucks before they need inframes unless they die on the road. My truck was using a gallon of oil every 2000 miles before they sold it without doing an inframe. Most of the trucks have not had an inframe.

    They clain liability reasons, but its really becuase they dont want you to see when a truck went 55k before coming in sometimes (my tmc truck did once) You really dont know how many miles you have left.

    If you dont care about the trucks sexiness, consider this: The freghtliner with 500 k on it wont need an inframe for 500,000 miles. The Pete with 900 on it might need on in 100,000 miles. In 2 years with the freghtshaker you saved around 20,000 in fuel do to its aero dynamics. Who care about resale value when you can save 10k a year on fuel. The freghtshaker is cheaper to insure. Now if you keep the pete 10 years, you wouldn't have lost tons of value in the truck, but you would have lost 100,000 in fuel cost. who cares about 40k when you lost 100k.

    Changing the rear end is pricey. Also you want a higher gear (lower number) if you want more speed. 24.5 will help, but your rpm will still be kinda high to do 70 all day long.
     
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