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Old 02.11.2007
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I believe Rainman's advice was stating there is NOTHING in the FMCSA book stating you can NOT carry weapons, which was the original question.
You are correct most companies do not allow it.
Rainman was also stating "Facts" every states law is different on the laws of carrying a gun.
In Canada you can not have a weapon, I believe you go to jail if you do (I could be wrong on that one).

Carrying weapons is not against DOT regulations! You do have to abide by state laws on weapons! Company policy each individual would have to check with their own company!

I believe it was just a little confusion on how you read the post. No punt intended here! He didn't quit give false information # least from the way I read it, I read it 2 times to make sure (ok 3)
no, i did not "misread" Rainman's post. i do know he said it WAS NOT in the DOT regualations. i said, its usually a company violation, and he could face charges from his company, or local/state/federal charges if he is caught with a firearm. he goes/went on to say that a person can carry a firearm in another state, if that other state reconizes the home state's (where the driver is from) gun laws. i simply said that would take some research as each state is different, and the laws change daily (or so it would seem, as NYC, in of itself has laws different from the rest of the other NY cities/towns). the best advice to have been given by Rainman would have been to say "don't carry any firearms".

my reasoning here now (and then) would be that some people would "read into" Rainman's statement, and start carrying firearms without full knowledge of the laws in EACH state a driver transverses each day/week/month.

the very BEST advice anyone can follow is, "DO NOT CARRY FIREARMS". the cost of arrest, lawyers, loss of job, and so on and so forth won't be worth the aggravation one faces while carrying a firearm.
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I can make it simple fer ya... You have a Class “A” FEDERAL license. If you are caught with a gun in ANY state licensed or NOT it is a FELONY for a truck driver to carry one. YOU will go to J A I L Period. Ask someone in NY what might happen to a truck driver if they had a gun… Try going to the store (or truck stop) and buy a 6 pack of beer on your way home in your big truck and see what happens if you get stopped… Do not pass go… Go straight to jail… Same result EVERY time…


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no, i did not "misread" Rainman's post. i do know he said it WAS NOT in the DOT regualations. i said, its usually a company violation, and he could face charges from his company, or local/state/federal charges if he is caught with a firearm. he goes/went on to say that a person can carry a firearm in another state, if that other state reconizes the home state's (where the driver is from) gun laws. i simply said that would take some research as each state is different, and the laws change daily (or so it would seem, as NYC, in of itself has laws different from the rest of the other NY cities/towns). the best advice to have been given by Rainman would have been to say "don't carry any firearms".

my reasoning here now (and then) would be that some people would "read into" Rainman's statement, and start carrying firearms without full knowledge of the laws in EACH state a driver transverses each day/week/month.

the very BEST advice anyone can follow is, "DO NOT CARRY FIREARMS". the cost of arrest, lawyers, loss of job, and so on and so forth won't be worth the aggravation one faces while carrying a firearm.
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I can make it simple fer ya... You have a Class “A” FEDERAL license. If you are caught with a gun in ANY state licensed or NOT it is a FELONY for a truck driver to carry one. YOU will go to J A I L Period. Ask someone in NY what might happen to a truck driver if they had a gun… Try going to the store (or truck stop) and buy a 6 pack of beer on your way home in your big truck and see what happens if you get stopped… Do not pass go… Go straight to jail… Same result EVERY time…

i'm glad someone agree's with me...................
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Cool I assumed everyone knew...

Truck drivers are 10' tall and bullet proof. Why carry a gun except to keep that cowboy image alive? Why, if faced with an immediate threat we could just whine the perpetrator to death.

You fine folks worry way to much about this subject. If you try to tote a hog-leg, or a hand cannon, you're gonna' get caught, and have troubles. Discretion is required.

I had a cousin (since passed) who somehow procured a street-sweeper (full auto, 12 gauge, machine gun) that he carried for years delivering meat from the mid-west to NYC. He kept it handy in the cab too. I guess he never got tangled up with the wrong LEO. Never lost a load of meat either.
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I've known guys who've carried firearms with them in their rigs for years with no problems, and I personally don't have a problem with it. If a man is responsible enough to carry thousands of pounds of hazmat(capable of killing hundreds of people) through major metropolitin cities, surely he's responsible enough to carry a gun to protect himself. But to answer your question, It is illegal for any big truck(company or o/o) to be in possesion of a firearm and if caught you will be looking at a felony possession charge with a maximum of 10yrs fed time. If you do choose to carry, just be smart.
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I can't speak 4 U but I do..................

I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Especially when I'm out doing what it takes to put food on the table, keep the lights on, or whatever.
Listen, business is business, and all the rest can run a marathon! No, I'm not looking for trouble, but if it comes, then I'll be prepared. People seem to forget that this country was founded by the gun. My family depends on me to be safe, and that equates to being ruthlessly prudent.
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It is NOT illegal

I called the DOT and NRA and specifically asked if there is a federal law making it illegal to carry a firearm in a CMV. There is no such law.
If the company employing you has a rule against it then obviously you could get fired if you do so anyway.
The DOT told me though if you do carry a firearm, you must abide by the state/local laws. However, if you are driving through a state that has a law against firearms in the vehicle you are exempt if the state you start driving in and the state you stop in both allow firearms in vehicles.
This does not mean you are allowed to have the firearm on your person if you are not licensed to carry. If you are unlicensed you can still have it in your truck, just not on your person when you get out of the truck.
I hope this helped clear up the fact and fiction floating around about guns in big trucks.
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Wow . So has everybody just assumed it was illegal to carry a fire arm ? I know there are company policies about this on and off there property . I have a CWP from my state .To get one you have a back ground check and finger printing. So it is treated just like getting a haz mat endorsment with the gov't. GO FIGURE.
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i think in this day and age it would be in our best intrests to carry a firearm in the truck.better safe than sorry.
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please do not go around saying any such advice. you may be as far from the truth than you know. many trucking companies DO NOT ALLOW WEAPONS IN THE TRUCKS.......PERIOD..........

you would be in violation of company policy, and face charges. you CANNOT CROSS STATE LINES CARRYING A WEAPON (firearm). any firearm permit (or license) is usually for the state you live in......ONLY.......you would need to do an extensive search for EACH AND EVERY STATE, and then, the laws change nearly daily, and you will never be able to keep up with all those changes. you risk putting yourself in jail for mandatory terms.


YOU ARE GIVING OUT BAD ADVICE..................
You are way wrong on this. Show me EXACTLY where in the law it states that you cannot cross a state line with a handgun. That is absurd. Then after stating that you absolutely CANNOT, you turn around and say "usually." Your post is full of assumptions - "You will never be...," "You would need..." Looks like you are the one giving out the bad advice here.

The best site for information on carrying with a permit is [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . I would suggest you start by looking there and not listening to people that don;t know what they are talking about on this forum.
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