Old Truck vs New Truck

Discussion in 'Trucker Taxes and Truck Financing' started by MrHarris504, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. MrHarris504

    MrHarris504 Bobtail Member

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    Time to purchase!
    i have been asking around about leasing a newer truck vs buying an older truck.

    New truck:
    less headache/sleep better
    dependable
    always rolling, require less maintaince
    pass inspections easier
    high note
    should gross $5k-6k a week (possible)

    Older Truck:
    still dependable...
    more maintaince
    hoping the truck don't break down
    no note!


    The O/o that suggested the older truck does not
    go over the road. He stay local to maintain his truck and get home. The point for getting a truck is for that MOF to move... Not stay around for me to watch. If a truck can gross $5k-6k per week, I want to have the most dependable thing out there. A $1600 a month note isn't bad if grossing $25k a month.

    A 48 month lease, 4 year warranty. After lease is up, trucks go back or buy out. I'm not in the business to keep these trucks. Return trucks and get new fleet. Credit should go up and note should go down.
    i know all things break and something's will go wrong. However, you get what you pay for. I have a great driver that don't mind being on the road.

    Please give thoughts on this! Thanks
     
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  3. Lone Ranger 13

    Lone Ranger 13 Road Train Member

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    New trucks can have issues, especially emissions related issues that can cause the truck to breakdown. If you lease, you may want to lease from a nationwide leasing company (Ryder, Penske, etc), so you could possibly get a replacement truck quickly if necessary. You also can have access to their shops nationwide. I was with a company that leased all their trucks from Ryder. Seemed to work for them. But I am gonna keep my 2003 non emissions truck for a little while longer. It's very dependable.
     
  4. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Where are you getting a new truck for $1600, 1998? A new truck payment with 10-20% down will easily be in the 2600-3000 range. From what I've seen, typically lease companies aren't interested in the one to three truck operators. Penske was the most accommodating when I needed to short term rent a truck for a few days, but required a large deposit to do so. Ryder wasn't interested in talking to me.
     
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  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Yep, lease outfits generally don't reduce payments any more then an outright purchase/finance/20% down when it's all said and done, so you may as well buy if you have the credit and the means. Then, typical new truck with FET, $148k+, less 20% down, 5-6 years .... a lot of money and you better hope you don't encounter any life/family experiences that might keep you idle for a long period of time.

    It's all about the rate assured and the confidence the freight/work will be there consistently, this year and next year. A new truck will leave you with some value after 5-6 years. either a good trade-in, or a reliable truck that should give you another 4 years of increased profits if she holds up well, but don't forget to budget for major break-down costs and costly tows, because at some point, they will find you.
     
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  6. MrHarris504

    MrHarris504 Bobtail Member

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    When I saw newER truck, I mean something with 300-600,000 miles. Maybe 50-70k opposed to 20-30k. Credit is ok. Have the down payment
     
  7. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    I see little value in that myself. I just test drove a '10 780. Too expensive and no OEM warranty. I'd rather have brand new or older than 07 with an EGR delete or no EGR. Reliability is what it's all about to me, OTR breakdowns cost big $$$. My buddy put $20k into his 08 780 D13 head and towing. I've bought a $3k clutch on the road.
     
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  8. atlasvanlinesdog

    atlasvanlinesdog Bobtail Member

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    New vs old truck? How old? 3, 5 years old? I bought mine in 2010 '05 Columbia, since then never had problems, only issue I had was starter, luckily I was parked at the shippers dock, not big deal, my batteries were stolen too, never had any engine, transmission problems, my ac compressor ran out last week, many factors to consider ,
     
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  9. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    It does not matter what you gross. What counts is the profit. If you gross 30k a month but you spend 35 it is not gonna work for you!:biggrin_25520:
     
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  10. MrHarris504

    MrHarris504 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the comment, however I aware of basic business sense. I guess my question is, is it possible for one truck to make $5k-$7k a week. Are the loads there to be made. All the go getters, the hustlers or grinders, is this possible. At least 1 person doing well with a rent to own or leased truck?
     
  11. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    3 parts to the equation ...
    -revenue per mile (day, trip, ton, whatever) + any FSC that may be applicable
    -fixed costs (min salary, bank note(s), insurance, etc)
    -is the work consistent [enough]

    these components need to be known before you can really be sure of any capital investment decisions.

    Too many carriers build a lease and compensation schedule assuming the contractor will be content to operate a POS tractor with little/no note payment, for the duration. This can only lead to eventual poor house as maintenance and repair costs begin to catch up ... and they come with a vengeance. And you can never accumulate enough profit (depreceation) to work your way up in terms of tractor specs/age.

    $5-6k week gross means nothing to us not knowing what is required to earn this and the type of hauling. Might be a great deal, might really suck, depends on too many variables and factors.
     
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