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Old 04.04.2007
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Unreimbursed Miles?

The carrier I am leased on to does not pay hub miles. Many trips are 1-5 miles short, and some of the really off ones are as much as 30-40 miles short compared to what they list them as. So, a trip that will pay you for 285 miles actually takes 290 miles by the time you make it back to the terminal.

So, my question is... How can we claim those unpaid miles? They are a legitimate business expense, and I am not being paid for them. The IRS has a rate for POV miles when they are business related, but what about my commercial vehicle?

Would this just be covered in the fuel deduction?
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Relax. You're getting a #### good rate.

Relax, brother. You could be doing a LOT worse. I remember I used to drive for companies that would short me 10% on miles as regularly as clockwork. And you could be working for Swift out of the Richmond, VA terminal. I used to take runs for Swift from Richmond to Baltimore and would get stiffed on about 30% of the miles. You're doing great compared to that.

No, I couldn't write off those miles I had to give away, either. I needed proof that I actually didn't get paid for the miles when I actually did drive them. I didn't know how to get that proof.

Today I'd try to see if I could get records from Q-comm, assuming I drove for a company that uses satellite tracking. Of course, I wouldn't be driving for a company that stiffed me on more than about 2% of my miles, either.

The Q-Comm companies know exactly how far you drive thanks to the satellite system, yet they will still stiff you on some of your miles. This is something that needs to be investigated by someone like Nancy Pilosi. In three years driving, I bet I gave away 5,000 bucks in free miles, and the IRS couldn't possibly have cared less.
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The carrier I am leased on to does not pay hub miles. Many trips are 1-5 miles short, and some of the really off ones are as much as 30-40 miles short compared to what they list them as. So, a trip that will pay you for 285 miles actually takes 290 miles by the time you make it back to the terminal.

So, my question is... How can we claim those unpaid miles? They are a legitimate business expense, and I am not being paid for them. The IRS has a rate for POV miles when they are business related, but what about my commercial vehicle?

Would this just be covered in the fuel deduction?
You can't claim "unpaid" miles. You can claim the income received and all the legitimate expenses that you had that offsets the income amount.

It costs quite a bit more per mile to operate a class eight truck than what the IRS would allow you per mile if you took deductions on that basis, and the IRS only allows you to claim vehicle expenses for the year based on one method or the other, so even if you went to the actual mileage calculations, you'd lose out. It wouldn't begin to touch your actual expenses to operate a big truck.
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Of course, I wouldn't be driving for a company that stiffed me on more than about 2% of my miles, either.
Good luck on finding THAT.
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I know it, brother TT

Yeap, your right, brother TT. It'd take more than luck to find that company. It'd take about three miracles to happen all at once. Unconnected, marginalized guys like me don't get those kinds of jobs. Only those who know the right person get 'em.
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I get paid off the odometer!!

YA SORRY i AM BRAGING
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You can't claim "unpaid" miles. You can claim the income received and all the legitimate expenses that you had that offsets the income amount.





You also cannot claim payment for a load that a shipper/broker stiffed you on. Only the actually provable expenses. It sucks I know.
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I get paid off the odometer!!

YA SORRY i AM BRAGING
Who do you drive for?
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Some years ago, a friend of mine who owned a truck & had a driver in it, was successfully sued by that driver for his unpaid miles.

I think it was in civil court where the suit was brought.

I don't know all the details but I continue to believe it's a possibility if you want to go that route.
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as far as being stiffed by shipper/broker, in my current line of bus./work if after a year's time and i have not been paid i can write that invoice off.
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