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Adding dependants to your tax return

As I understand this, a tax payer may claim an adult child on his taxes provided he pays at least half of the adult childs expenses.

My question is this; Can you add a sister, nieces, nephews to your deductions when filing taxes?

I have a younger sister that has recently split from her husband, is unemployed, and has 2 kids still in school and is now living with me (her big brother). She has nothing. No job. No money. No insurance. No home (it was foeclosed on). I will support them regardless because they are family but it would be nice to get some credit on my taxes.

Anyone know if this is permitted? Of course I am looking at next years taxes seeing they just moved in.
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There are 2 people you need to speak to before you claim them.

Your sister and a good Tax expert.

You could do it, by claiming head of household.

But, I would be curious as to how it would affect any type of state assistance she might qualify for, now and in the future. Hence, the tax expert.

It could turn out to be a double edged sword.
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Thankyou. I had not considered the state aid angle. Sounds like I need to do some research. Thanks for the new perspective Danc694u.
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You have several issues here that will need to be addressed.

First, you state she is separated. There is a potential tax problem for her and her spouse. Her husband may try to file and claim the children. A separation agreement or divorce by the end of the year here. If the dependent can be claimed by another, you cannot claim them. Your sister has the right to claim them, but without the means of support it can go to you.

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To meet this test, a person must either:
  1. Live with you all year as a member of your household, or
  2. Be related to you in one of the ways listed under Relatives who do not have to live with you.
If at any time during the year the person was your spouse, that person cannot be your qualifying relative. However, see [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , earlier.
Relatives who do not have to live with you. A person related to you in any of the following ways does not have to live with you all year as a member of your household to meet this test.
  • Your child, stepchild, foster child, or a descendant of any of them (for example, your grandchild). (A legally adopted child is considered your child.)
  • Your brother, sister, half brother, half sister, stepbrother, or stepsister.
  • Your father, mother, grandparent, or other direct ancestor, but not foster parent.
  • Your stepfather or stepmother.
  • A son or daughter of your brother or sister.
  • A brother or sister of your father or mother.
  • Your son-in-law, daughter-in-law, father-in-law, mother-in-law, brother-in-law, or sister-in-law.
Any of these relationships that were established by marriage are not ended by death or divorce.

There are tests for claiming them under publication 17 chapter 3.
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There are four tests that must be met for a person to be your qualifying relative. The four tests are:
  1. Not a qualifying child test,
  2. Member of household or relationship test,
  3. Gross income test, and
  4. Support test.

Age. Unlike a qualifying child, a qualifying relative can be any age. There is no age test for a qualifying relative.


Issues such as these get very complex. I agree with Dance694u about getting proper tax advice.

You can pm later, a bit tired after 2 long days. Will be home for 5 days and will gladly look into a little deeper. BUT, I still advise local accountant help during the later times.
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Thankyou

I appreciate you both taking the time to give me some more information about this. I will wait to see how things play out over the next year. As you stated my sister would be the logical person to claim her and the kids as dependants (provided she does get work and her husband does not try to claim them). If he does not get work and is unable to support the kids and she does not get a job then I will pursue the deduction after first checking with them both to make sure there is no conflict. I definitely do not need any additional grief from the IRS.
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Issues like what you are presenting make for tough tax preparations.

Good luck.
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If you are going to use"Head of Household"remember,you cannot be married.Like others have said,there is a test to show who is a qualifying child or relative and they must meet other protocol such as income.I believe for tax year 2007,it was under $3,300 maximum gross income.If your sister decides to seek public assistance(welfare)those benefits are not considered taxable income.Yes,a tax professional can guide you,until then you can go to the IRS website,in search,type in,501.Once there,hit on the second topic in the list.It will answer most of your questions.Also search Pennsylvania Department of Welfare on how to get your sister some public aid.Before I forget,if your sister recieves child support,she does not have to show this as taxable income,the father or payee does.I used "Head of Household" for a few years after my wife died.After my son turned 18,I still used it because his income fell under the guidelines for a qualifying relative.It does provide some tax relief.Good luck to you,your sister and kids.
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If you are going to use"Head of Household"remember,you cannot be married.

You can file head of household if married under certain circumstances.


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Considered married. You are considered married for the whole year if on the last day of your tax year you and your spouse meet any one of the following tests.
  1. You are married and living together as husband and wife.
  2. You are living together in a common law marriage that is recognized in the state where you now live or in the state where the common law marriage began.
  3. You are married and living apart, but not legally separated under a decree of divorce or separate maintenance.
  4. You are separated under an interlocutory (not final) decree of divorce. For purposes of filing a joint return, you are not considered divorced.
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Thanks,roadmedic I missed it.Should have known better.I'll go sit in the corner for a time out.

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No problem. After 30 years of return preparation and having to do lengthy continuing education each year, it is something that always stays with you.
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