Trucker Shot at Loves

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  1. bergy

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    If he was out of his mind enough to charge an armed guard, then it is logical he was far gone enough that he would have gone for the guard's gun. Then not a stretch to think he was off his rocker enough to actually shoot the guard.

    The guard did the right thing - it could have been a bloodbath.

    I also happen to think that when people assault officers or resist arrest, the officers shouldn't be under such pressure to show restraint for fear of lawsuits. Officers are forced to do the politically correct thing, and warn people 20 times; putting themselves and the public in danger. Ask once, ask twice, then taze. This would make for a safer society with a healthier respect for the law.
     
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  3. tow614

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    Security guards are "not" police officers....trying to rationalize what someone may have done is rediculous..

    The security guard over reacted probably due to his own inabilities to take the situation under control.

    Deadly force was not required for an unarmed man..

    To say he might have taken the security guards weapon is all the more reason for the security guard to have never had a weapon in the first place..
     
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  4. tirednaz

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    Wrong ever hear of George Zimmerman. Burden of proof lies with the prosecution not the defense. I'm not justifiing what was done but keeping an open mind to the facts. We do not know the facts.
     
  5. tow614

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    Zimmerman was florida with different laws..

    The security guard was not the prosecutor,jury nor judge..

    Zimmerman responded while getting his head bashed in...the security guard did not..
     
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  6. bergy

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    Crazy guy out of his mind charged a man with a gun. What was the outcome supposed to be? I'm just glad the out of control, crazy guy was put down, instead of some innocent lady buying gum.
     
  7. tow614

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    I am with you on a lot of things and I do understand why people feel the way they do..

    But anyone who is allowed to be armed needs to be properly trained and should have been able to handle the situation without using deadly force.
     
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  8. tirednaz

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    You have no idea what traing this guy had or what the situation was at the time. Could have been x cop, x military could have attended self defense classes, could be a citizen exercising his 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms. The point is nobody knows what happen but the shooter and the dead guy right now.
     
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  9. bergy

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    Ok, I'll give you that. And possibly a stun gun or tazer is a better weapon for a security guard.

    But, whatever his options, he shouldn't have to put his life on the line to give a charging crazy man an extra chance.
     
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  10. tow614

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    Being an ex Ohio State Trooper i pay attention to statements... the one thing that stands out to me that nothing has been mentioned about any type of scuffle between the security guard and the victim which would have indicated the guard tried alternative methods to subdue him.

    The only response that we know of was that the guard went for his weapon first...

    Had he proper training he would have attempted something other than deadly force first with an unarmed man...
    He very well may have but it was not reported which is peculiar....

    One thing is certain,,,,, a man is dead.... and that is final....
     
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  11. tirednaz

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    I must have missed this in the news paper story. But the fact is we don't know what happen first, we don't know if he just pulled his gun and fired. In an eminent danger incident there is no continuum of force. Being an X Ohio Trooper you should know that. If I felt my life or that of a family member was in danger of great bodily harm or death, I'm pulling the trigger.

    Thank you for the debate.
     
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