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Okay, I have to ask; do you personally know of any illegal aliens receiving welfare, food stamps, bilingual education, or free medical care (other than emergency treatment or routine inoculations for minors)? Do you have any idea whatsoever what the Mexican truckers might be protesting?
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Well, I personally know of HUNDREDS of illegals receiving these services. And I have NO sympathies for mexican truckers or their "protests".
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The raggedy trucks they've been using on the border have only a slightly higher fail rate than the US average. That doesn't say much about OUR trucks, now does it?
You'll have to show me where you got that stat & how it was arrived at.
Are they going to use those border trucks to run the entire US?

I imagine that our average fleet breakdowns should be much higher because we have a few million trucks compared to their few hundred thousand.

So if they are showing a higher percentage of breakdowns, I take that as each of their trucks is in the shop more often than ours.
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Next thing you know they're going to blame the Minneapolis I-35 bridge collapse on Mexican trucks.
I was going to answer in a sarcastic way but decided to not go for laughs in light of the tragedy.

Even I have the occasional bout of sensitivity & compassion.
I just hate when that happens.
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In 2005, there were only 168,225 two- and three-axle tractors in all of Mexico, according to the national agency that supervises Mexican trucking, the Direccion General de Autotransporte Federal. The 269,000 valid CDLs in Mexico include drivers of all commercial vehicles, including buses, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation.

This is what you are all afraid of?

Gimme a Break.
Yeah. No. What I'm "afraid of" is how many of these mexicans will be on our roads in 5,10,15 years. You can cite all of the statistical nonsense (a la cut-and-paste) as you like, but noone can possibly predict the #### storm that this will cause. (Not to mention the U.S.-owned companies who will be finding loopholes to give mexicans more opportunities---OUR opportunities---to haul OUR FREIGHT).

?Comprende?
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Would the DOT let you drive a "raggedy" truck?
Wow. Well now that you put it THAT way, heh heh.

I don't believe that mexicans are well-known in this country for following the "letter of the law".
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Wow. Well now that you put it THAT way, heh heh.

I don't believe that mexicans are well-known in this country for following the "letter of the law".
Unlike all those honest law abiding "SuperTruckers" on the roads?

I guess every American born trucker never fudged the logbook, never drove around a scale, never had a beer in the truck, never smoked some weed in the back row of a T/S. Never went over his hours since he was only 50 miles from home.

You've got to be joking with the "Letter of the Law" argument.
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Okay, I have to ask; do you personally know of any illegal aliens receiving welfare, food stamps, bilingual education, or free medical care (other than emergency treatment or routine inoculations for minors)? Do you have any idea whatsoever what the Mexican truckers might be protesting?
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No. I do not personally know any of the thousands of children of illegal aliens in southern California's school systems. I happen to know for a fact that any person can enroll their child in school with only a "valid local address", (at the expense of my tax dollars), and NO ONE can deny their "right" for a billingual education for something as silly as being illegal aliens. I can and have also read numerous newspaper articles about the border states, not just California, having monetary problems meeting the "social programs" that our liberal FEDERAL legislators require but refuse to provide funding for.
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I was going to answer in a sarcastic way but decided to not go for laughs in light of the tragedy.

Come on!!! I need a laugh!!!
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Unlike all those honest law abiding "SuperTruckers" on the roads?

I guess every American born trucker never fudged the logbook, never drove around a scale, never had a beer in the truck, never smoked some weed in the back row of a T/S. Never went over his hours since he was only 50 miles from home.

You've got to be joking with the "Letter of the Law" argument.
Can't argue with that.
I never did the weed thing in the truck & I never drank on duty though.
I'd be lyin' thru my teeth as bad as Hillary if I said I didn't do the other things.

I find the safety check aspects reasonable.
We don't really know what kind of shape those trucks or drivers are in underneath.
Until they prove themselves over a period of time, I think it prudent to continue checking.

If I had to single out what I thought of as the worst problem with this entire scenario, it wouldn't be their trucks nor their driver records.

I believe I dislike it for the cabotage rules.
My belief is that we should have left things as they were on the borders.
We drop a trailer on the border, they come and get it & return it empty or loaded.
We drag it the rest of the way thru this country to Canada.

In my opinion, our drivers loose out when these loads are taken away.
The American or Canadian consumer isn't going to benefit from the difference in drivers pays.
That savings will head straight into the pockets of the importers & the carriers.
You can bet Wally World won't pass that savings on to us.

I fear that as time goes on, the cabotage rules will become abused & then overlooked.

Anyone who says the illegal aliens' illegal activities aren't already overlooked on a regular basis is lying to himself.

In that same vain & regardless of the Mexican drivers being legally here, I think it's just a matter of time before illegal cabotage becomes just another overlooked rule thanks to the US Goobermint & the ATA's membership.
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Unlike all those honest law abiding "SuperTruckers" on the roads?

I guess every American born trucker never fudged the logbook, never drove around a scale, never had a beer in the truck, never smoked some weed in the back row of a T/S. Never went over his hours since he was only 50 miles from home.

You've got to be joking with the "Letter of the Law" argument.
Okay. Well let me point out the faulty reasoning in your post...and I think about 2,809 other ones. You can't expect EVERY SINGLE ONE of ANY particular group to be an upstanding member of that group. However, if I was going to bet my life (LITERALLY, in this case), I would go with the American trucker every time. And statistically it's a good bet. (Surely anyone who furiously cuts and pastes facts and figures 2500 or so times can appreciate that...?)

So no, I'm not joking. But I AM laughing!
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Okay. Well let me point out the faulty reasoning in your post...and I think about 2,809 other ones. You can't expect EVERY SINGLE ONE of ANY particular group to be an upstanding member of that group. However, if I was going to bet my life (LITERALLY, in this case), I would go with the American trucker every time. And statistically it's a good bet. (Surely anyone who furiously cuts and pastes facts and figures 2500 or so times can appreciate that...?)

So no, I'm not joking. But I AM laughing!
The "cut and paste facts" are from the article in the first post of this thread, I guess you didn't read it.

I hope you read road signs a little better.
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