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Daimler tacks $9,000 on 2010 big bore engines

Daimler tacks $9,000 on 2010 big bore engines

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PORTLAND, Ore. - Daimler Trucks North America has released pricing for meeting EPA2010 standards with its Detroit Diesel BlueTec or Cummins mid-range engine emissions technologies.

Emissions technology surcharges for vehicles equipped with Detroit Diesel DD15 and DD16 big bore engines, as well as the medium bore DD13, will be $9,000 per vehicle. A surcharge of $7,300 will be added to vehicles equipped with the Cummins ISC8.3 engine, and a $6,700 surcharge will be added to the price of vehicles equipped with Cummins ISB6.7 engines.

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Ouch!

And its all unnecessary.

Nitrogen Oxide is 70% of the air we breath and to plants it is fertilizer that makes their leaves green.

Soot falls to the ground.

And trees breath Carbon Dioxide.

This is almost like religious mass hysteria from the church of the EPA. You will pay your tribute to the Enivrogods.
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I think you mean just nitrogen is in the air we breathe. Not nitrogen oxide, of which there's no such thing. There's nitric oxide, nitrogen dioxide, nitrous oxide, dinitrogen trioxide, dinitrogen tetroxide, and dinitrogen pentoxide.
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I probably should have written Nigrogen Oxide(s)

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if you breathe it you poot it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



by the way ,, here comes my wife out of the shower..................BOOOOMMM,,, she just walked into the bed room,,,,,,,, and,,,,,,,dann!!!!! she walks into a huge cloud of fresh METHANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ohhhh ,,, i see the brooom coming,,,, i'll see yall later,,,,, i'm in deep chitt.......

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Ouch!

And its all unnecessary.

Nitrogen Oxide is 70% of the air we breath and to plants it is fertilizer that makes their leaves green.

Soot falls to the ground.

And trees breath Carbon Dioxide.

This is almost like religious mass hysteria from the church of the EPA. You will pay your tribute to the Enivrogods.

The soot that doesn't fall to the ground goes into your lungs. Bad stuff. Particulate matter regulation is good for us.

NOx is an interesting matter altogether. It does lead to smog formation which also affects our lungs. So perhaps it's not so bad either.

The CO2 issue has me definitely scratching my head. You're right in that CO2 is used by plants to grow and ultimately pump out oxygen. I have mixed views on whether the CO2 is actually contributing to man-made climate change.

The way I look at is if technology advances...and it has...to a level where we can have more fuel efficient and cleaner engines, then why not. The key is in the way it is administered. I don't have the answers, but I certainly have some questions here....
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