Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board - The Premier Truck Drivers Forum!  

Trucker MySpace - Truckers Making Friends. Chicken Truckers Come Meet Other Truckers!

Truck Trading Post - New Classified Ads Section! Post for Free, Sell Your Stuff Fast!




Go Back   Truckers' Trucking Forum | Largest Class A Message Board > Trucking News & Reports > Truckers News

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board - The Premiere Truck Driver Forum

Truckers News The Dimmer Switch. Got some interesting truckers news you want let others to know about? Let drivers know here. Discuss trucking news. What do you know that other truckers don't? Basically a current events message board. International Truckers News
American Truckers News

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  ^ Top   #1  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
rookietrucker's Avatar
Trucker Forum STAFF
 
Last Seen: 44 Minutes Ago 03.21 AM
Member Since: Jul 2007
Trucker? Trucking Industry
Posts: 4,109
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 890
Thanked: 1,293 Times
My Truckers Blog : 2
Per diem rate bumped to $59 per day

Per diem rate bumped to $59 per day
Quote:
The per diem rate for truckers – and other transportation workers – was bumped to $59 from $52. The per diem kicked into effect Oct. 1 for most truckers.

Tax experts have debated whether a trucker who uses the per diem rate to figure expenses can actually switch to the “new” rate after it becomes effective Oct. 1. Some accountants have said taxpayers must stick with the old rate through the end of each calendar year.

more here>> Per diem rate bumped to $59 per day
Reply With Quote
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #2  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
DDiesel's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 12.15 AM
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Moreno Valley
Trucker? Student
Age: 21
Posts: 85
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 37
Thanked: 6 Times
how does this per diem system work??
__________________
Trying to find a A Good Company is Like trying to elect Good President You just try to see which one will Screw you over less in the end

Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #3  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
ChromeDome's Avatar
Heavy Load Member
 
Last Seen: 8 Hours Ago 07.21 PM
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Jamestown NY.
Trucker? 9 Years
Age: 40
Posts: 898
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 6
Thanked: 259 Times
I believe this year we are at 80%, or was that last year lol, in which case we are at 85%.
That is for tax purposes.
For every night you are away from your Tax home for driving a truck you claim 80% of 52.00 a day.
So if you are out on the road 300 nights that is 300x 52 x .8= 12,480 perdiem you can claim on your taxes. With it at 59 it will be 300x 59x .8 = 14,160
I am pretty sure we are at 85% for this year though. It has been going up 5% a year since the last highway bill, was supposed to raise 5% a year till it got to 100%. This could be changed with the increase though. No matter what it is a large writeoff on your taxes to cover food and road expenses without having to save receipts. Just need to be able to show your logs in case of audit to show nights away from tax home.
This is what the trucking company's that pay perdiem are ripping you off on. You will get this money at the end of the year on taxes, it is your money.
The company's that pay you perdiem are stealing from you most of the time, since they lower your rate to pay you money that was already yours.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #4  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
Medium Load Member
 
Last Seen: 4 Minutes Ago 04.02 AM
Member Since: Apr 2008
Location: Bismarck, ND
Trucker? 1 Year
Age: 33
Posts: 356
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 27
Thanked: 102 Times
It is still 80%. And the $59/day only applies to the days you were out from Oct. 1 to Dec 31, 2009. If any accountant tries to tell you that you can't claim the 59 rate till next year (lose a little money) OR tells you to to use the 59 rate for all of this year (get in big doodoo with the IRS), then you need a new accountant that isn't so lazy.
Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #5  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
Oversizeload's Avatar
"Weight Limit"
 
Last Seen: 10 Hours Ago 05.54 PM
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Parma Hts., Ohio
Trucker? 15 Years
Posts: 10
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked: 3 Times
Is there a mininum amount of days you need to be out? I drive mostly local but I do spend nites out once in a while. I also escort superload and can spend days at time away from home can I claim these days too? I do run a log book even when escorting but its on duty not drivng time.
Reply With Quote
Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Truck Forum and Trucking Community For Free. Sponsored Links:

  ^ Top   #6  
Old 4 Weeks Ago
DDiesel's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 12.15 AM
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Moreno Valley
Trucker? Student
Age: 21
Posts: 85
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 37
Thanked: 6 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromeDome View Post
I believe this year we are at 80%, or was that last year lol, in which case we are at 85%.
That is for tax purposes.
For every night you are away from your Tax home for driving a truck you claim 80% of 52.00 a day.
So if you are out on the road 300 nights that is 300x 52 x .8= 12,480 perdiem you can claim on your taxes. With it at 59 it will be 300x 59x .8 = 14,160
I am pretty sure we are at 85% for this year though. It has been going up 5% a year since the last highway bill, was supposed to raise 5% a year till it got to 100%. This could be changed with the increase though. No matter what it is a large writeoff on your taxes to cover food and road expenses without having to save receipts. Just need to be able to show your logs in case of audit to show nights away from tax home.
This is what the trucking company's that pay perdiem are ripping you off on. You will get this money at the end of the year on taxes, it is your money.
The company's that pay you perdiem are stealing from you most of the time, since they lower your rate to pay you money that was already yours.
so is it better to go to a company without the per diem program??
__________________
Trying to find a A Good Company is Like trying to elect Good President You just try to see which one will Screw you over less in the end

Reply With Quote
  ^ Top   #7  
Old 3 Weeks Ago
ChromeDome's Avatar
Heavy Load Member
 
Last Seen: 8 Hours Ago 07.21 PM
Member Since: Jun 2007
Location: Jamestown NY.
Trucker? 9 Years
Age: 40
Posts: 898
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 6
Thanked: 259 Times
The 59 a day per-diem is for workers subject to DOT hours of service rules.
So if you legally have to run a log book, then you can claim it for nights away from your tax home. There is no minimum number of days.
There are also tax rules for perdium from other types of jobs, but the amount of money per day is allot lower than ours.

Yes.
It is better to go with a company that does not have forced per-diem, unless they have a very good base rate they are putting it on top of. Do not look at the per-diem as income, because it is not.
Some company's will blow smoke up your %$# saying they pay 30 cpm to start, but 8 cpm of that is per-diem. Which means the company is really only paying you 22 cpm, and giving you help for an early tax return. Since you would have gotten that other 8 cpm when you file anyway. So if you are driving for them a year and drive 120,000 miles (very possible) you just lost 9,600 dollars in tax write offs at the end of the year. Also this money is not counted as income for loans, unemployment, social security etc.
Also they are writing it off 100% at your company. So they are not "loosing" this money, like they feel they do on payroll. Since they do not have to pay there portion of SSI or Unemployment compensation etc on it.
You will get a little boost on your pay checks, since this is money is not taxed. But the company is the real winner.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ChromeDome For This Useful Post:
DDiesel (3 Weeks Ago)
  ^ Top   #8  
Old 3 Weeks Ago
DDiesel's Avatar
Light Load Member
 
Last Seen: 2 Days Ago 12.15 AM
Member Since: Jun 2009
Location: Moreno Valley
Trucker? Student
Age: 21
Posts: 85
My Trucking Photos: 0

Thanks: 37
Thanked: 6 Times
thanks chrome im still a little confused but what im gettting is basically they pay you more but u don't get it back on your taxes
__________________
Trying to find a A Good Company is Like trying to elect Good President You just try to see which one will Screw you over less in the end

Reply With Quote
Reply

Truckers' Trucking Forum/Message Board


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Trucker Forum Replies Last Post
Tax question from new driver Roadsong66 Trucker Taxes 39 2 Weeks Ago 06.51 AM
can some one please explain per diem pay?? Sami Questions From New Drivers 102 2 Weeks Ago 02.54 PM
80 hr/8 day - 100 air mile - 16 hour work day classxxaxxdriver Trucking Industry Regulations 10 09.25.2009 01.03 PM
IRS announces that per diem rate remains unchanged for 2009 Cybergal Trucker Taxes 0 09.29.2008 07.36 PM
Per Diem?? JimF Questions From New Drivers 6 05.25.2008 08.56 PM


.


vBulletin Forum Software, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
Copyright © TheTruckersReport.com - Trucking Forum & Message Board - Truck Driver Discussion - Truck Forum

Trucker Forum Disclaimer: All content, information and opinions (collectively, the "Material") presented on Our Trucker Forum Discussion Board at TheTruckersReport.com are those of the authors of posts and messages (collectively, the "participants") and not The Truckers Report. The Truckers Report does not guarantee the reliability, completeness, accuracy, timeliness or up-to-date-ness of the material presented on the Truck Driver Forum. The material is published "as is," and does not represent the official views and opinions of The Truckers Report or any company. Any reliance upon the Material presented on these forums shall be at User's own risk. The Truckers Report does not review the substance of the content posted by users on these forums and is therefore not responsible for any of such content. The Truckers Forum merely provides a space for its users to express and exchange their own opinions. Privacy Statement.


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO