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    Quote Originally Posted by wsyrob View Post
    How long ago was that. I don't blame them either for wanting 100%. Health care premiums really escalated in the 90s and many companies(not just trucking) that used to pay 100% began sharing the cost with employees. My wife works for Blue Cross and even she doesn't get 100%.
    My wife still works there. It is still free. So, I guess I am still current on it.

    The reason the employees get the benefit is thanks to the laws that prohibit benefits to just the owners. Otherwise the cheap owners would only cover themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadmedic View Post
    My wife still works there. It is still free. So, I guess I am still current on it.

    The reason the employees get the benefit is thanks to the laws that prohibit benefits to just the owners. Otherwise the cheap owners would only cover themselves.

    So you think that an employer should pay 100% of an employees health care insurance?

    Just how many small companies are you willing to put out of business?

    Re: your wife.... It's not free. TANSTAAFL.

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    The cost of doing business is continuing to escalate, and even in the face of business going under the Unions will squeeze every drop of blood out of them.

    They don't care about the employer being able to stay in busniess. Look how they screwed up the auto industry. America can no longer afford Unions or Obama.

    Cross the picket line you bet no problem. I would not even hit my brakes, just keep moving not fast, but steady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder Joints View Post
    The cost of doing business is continuing to escalate, and even in the face of business going under the Unions will squeeze every drop of blood out of them.

    They don't care about the employer being able to stay in busniess. Look how they screwed up the auto industry. America can no longer afford Unions or Obama.
    I am still on the fence about unions. As far as Obama, he is costing more than the last president. But looking back each one has cost more than the last.

    I really wonder if we will ever see a true honest person who really understands the economy in the control of the country. Of course it would help if the congress was that way as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsyrob View Post
    The more I research this the worse it looks. Stepan already pays 80% of the health care premium for its workers. Union wants 100%.
    I did not see where the Teamsters object to paying 20% of the premiums,...

    If you dig deeper you would find that the company want's to move the Teamsters into a company controlled self funded insurance program,...Where the company sets the premiums,...

    In my opinion that would be similar to lease purchase deal where the company holds all of the cards and the employee loses every time,...

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    Quote Originally Posted by walleye View Post
    I did not see where the Teamsters object to paying 20% of the premiums,...

    If you dig deeper you would find that the company want's to move the Teamsters into a company controlled self funded insurance program,...Where the company sets the premiums,...

    In my opinion that would be similar to lease purchase deal where the company holds all of the cards and the employee loses every time,...

    Its looks like a totally dysfunctional workplace. 400 employees, 200 teamsters and the rest salaried or part time. 2 different insurance plans one better than the other. Seems like the company just wants to equalize it throughout the plant.

    Being from the south I have very little experience with Unions. It doesn't seem right that 1/2 of the workers at the plant are getting better coverage.

    Reading the comments below the newspaper article makes it look like there was constant resentment and tension because of it.

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    I agree on the insurance. It should be the same for Office, Plant and drivers.

    I would like to see the same benefits extended to drivers as the office staff get in the transportation industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadmedic View Post
    I agree on the insurance. It should be the same for Office, Plant and drivers.

    I would like to see the same benefits extended to drivers as the office staff get in the transportation industry.
    I think most of these striking teamsters are plant workers not drivers. I do not see Stepan trailers on the road. Many trucking companies load out of there. I imagine the union trucking companies are honoring the line. The electricians and ironworkers unions are crossing it.

    We are supposed to meet a security van to be escorted into the plant. Those workers are parking off site and being shuttled to work in the security vans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsyrob View Post
    I think most of these striking teamsters are plant workers not drivers. I do not see Stepan trailers on the road. Many trucking companies load out of there. I imagine the union trucking companies are honoring the line. The electricians and ironworkers unions are crossing it.

    We are supposed to meet a security van to be escorted into the plant. Those workers are parking off site and being shuttled to work in the security vans.
    Better you than me.

    I am not sure what I would do in this situation.

    After all, you are not a union employee, nor are you busting it.

    You are just trying to make a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadmedic View Post
    Better you than me.

    I am not sure what I would do in this situation.

    After all, you are not a union employee, nor are you busting it.

    You are just trying to make a living.
    Yeah to top it off, I have been out for 2 weeks and this load gets me home.

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