Originally Posted by Big Duker

What a good neighbor Colo has in the Brickman. Everyone's getting cabin fever and it's just the 2nd day. I'll admit that I have never driven in a total whiteout. Fog where I could only see 2 stripes ahead yes. And I don't care what anyone says I'm getting off the road. I've had a few who thought they were immortal come tearing up behind me and disappear in less than a second. Don't know how bad it scared them but my pucker factor was off the charts. Didn't answer me on radio either.

Originally Posted by 3.14

Originally Posted by Brickman

Striker obviously you haven't been driving for 13 yrs or if so not done any winter driving.

You are not understanding that the wind blowing the snow around causes 0 visibility. And when I say 0 visibility I mean nada, nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are a lot of times when the weather might not be that bad in the truck stop but out on the open plains it still sucks.
I can assure you that the DOT does not keep the roads closed just special to piss Striker off. They have far more important things to do than to try and piss you off.

Originally Posted by Big Duker

I hope you weren't at the TA. Last time I was there got a good dose of food poison. And I ordered off the menu so I wouldn't get sick off buffet. So much for my medical future. I'll starve to get to Johnson's Corner next time. They'll get you going pretty soon. Not much anyone can do about a freak storm like this one.

Originally Posted by Big Don

So what are you complaining about. At least you were not stuck out on the highway. BTDT, and did NOT enjoy it. Also stuck at the Tomahawk in Brush for around 20 hrs one time. I'll take being stuck at a truck stop, or at least in town any day over being stuck ON THE ROAD.

Originally Posted by Brickhauler

I live right in the middle of it. I got home right before the storm hit and just decided to stay home for a few days instead of going right back out. Its not like we are making wheelbarrows full of money right now anyway. I would much rather sit out for a day or two than take a chance on something happening to my truck. The wind was easily blowing 40 mph here yesterday and I could barely see from the house to the barn, why go out in it if you don't have to?

Originally Posted by Brickman

I saw the very beginning of that procession on one of the web cams. I guess they should have put chain laws in effect for Sherman. That means only the trucks with chains could have left Cheyenne.

Originally Posted by Brickman

I aint trying to be a good neighbor. Lord knows I hate CO at times too. But WY weather and road conditions can be very similar.

Originally Posted by Brickman

Those rolls are good. Bad thing is they are a lot of fluff. Sink your fork into that and it compresses over half of that distance.

Originally Posted by walleye

What kind of girl uses a fork to eat a cinnamon roll????,.....lol,..



Sorry Brick,...I had to ,...lmao,..

Originally Posted by striker

Your right, I've never drove in a white out blizzard in Oct. 2000 (Halloween) in Wyo. across I-80 from Elk to Laramie where the only way to determine where the road was, was to gently weave from one delineation marker to the other. The snow was blowing so bad, at times visibility was 10ft past my hood. I never knew it took over an hour to go from the 272 to 310, traction was great, it was the fact you couldn't see. I never was the lead truck in that "convoy" of about 40 trucks that rolled into Laramie at 6pm that night. Oh and I didn't spend 16 hrs sitting in the Wal-Mart parking lot with 50+ other trucks waiting for either 287 or Sherman to open, which they did finally open 287 and detoured several thousand trucks through downtown Ft. Collins.

IMHO, by comparison, WyDot does a 100% better job than CDOT does any day of the week. Again, at times there were white out conditions on Thursday, but there was no reason to close the road like they did. I left Denver at 7:45am to head to my pickup in Genoa (which my trailer is still there), it's normally a 90 minute drive, it took me 2 hrs because the EB lanes from Denver to Cedar Point were not plowed, sanded, etc., I never saw a plow, either side of the highway. Visibility never dropped below an 1/8th mile, when I was sitting at my customer loading, I'm about 250 yds from I-70, the entire time, even after the closed the road I could still see the highway. I-70 from Limon to Goodland never iced over, was not snow covered. The supervisor for my customer lives 11 miles E. in Arriba. He's a firefighter and even he couldn't understand why they closed the road, it wasn't that bad until about 5pm when the wind really quicked up.

Here's the problems, 1. CDOT is understaffed, they don't pay a decent enough wage for the Mtn. employees, as a result they can't get enough people. Hence, when the Mtn's get dumped on, they have to bring people in from the plains to work the Mtn's and short staff the plains. 2. Not to mention, because we are now a nation of sissies who cry about the slightest bit of snow on the ground, CDOT and CSP over react and jump the gun on things. 3. The ski areas pay so dman much money into the coffers of the state, that the state jumps and fetches for the ski areas to make sure the skiers can get through and screw everyone else. Why do you think we have these massive new fines for not chaining up? because the legislature wanted it? Do you know that the original proposal for the updated chain law included putting a chain law requirement for cars and RV's. But it was taken out by the first public reading because the ski areas were afraid the requirement would force skies to other states. Even a lot of the traffic reporters hate CDOT, I've got the traffic tip number for KOA, generally in the winter I'll call them with road report updates, espcially if I'm in the Mtn's. I've lost track fo the number of time one of the has asked me if I've seen a plow, as they are watching the cams are not seeing a single plow go by.



Company told me to get a hotel room, given that we didn't know how long the roads were going to be closed, if at all possible they didn't want the truck to idle that long. Ended up being closed EB for 25 hrs, I only had to sit for 20 hrs.



true, but there was no reason the road should have been closed, and why did it take 4 hrs after they opened WB to re-open EB. Oh, yeah, it was because I-70 was closed in Kansas. Which is kinda funny since EB I-70 in Kansas re-opened 3 hrs before EB I-70 in Colorado did.





well hell, I shoulda headed to your place



That is one thing I am glad about with Wyo., they will sometimes let you chain up and go even if the road is "closed". At least they have the good sense to understand that some people are smart enough to understand what they are doing.




yes they can, and winter in Wyo. can often be worse than Colo., but Wyo. does a much better job of handling it.

Originally Posted by Brickman

Hey buckwheat, even your big mouth don't open wide enough to take a bite outa that roll.



ROFLMAO, we even now?