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LogsRus · **^ Top** #71 08.11.2008

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Originally Posted by Lilbit

I drove back in 1999 & 2000, so I was under the old rules. Now that my hubby is driving, I am finally starting to understand the new rules. Most of his loads take at least two days, so he doesn't usually use up the full 14 hours, and rarely uses his full 11 hours, unless time is a bit tight. That doesn't happen very often. He usually has enough time to run 8 to 10 hours a day and make the delivery time.

Yes, driving 11 hours can be a bit tiring, but you don't run for 11 hours sold, you take a break every few hours - restrooms, beverage, food, fuel, etc, - it is doable without totally wiping you out. Night time can be a bit more tiring, unless you are a night owl. You are also suppose to be checking your tires and a few other things every so often during the day anyway. It's been a few years for me, so I don't remember all of it!

Just making sure your hubby does know once that clock starts by him entering lines 3 or 4 he only has 14 hours to do his 11 hours in right?

SO he can't drive 2 hours, stop 1 hour ,drive 3 hours ,sleep 4 ,drive 5 ,stop 1 hour , drive 1 and so on. In this case above once he drove that last 1 hour he was in violation of his 14 hour rule. He didn't violate the 11 because he only drove 11 hours total but over his 14 hour by 1 hour.

Just checking to make sure.

Lilbit · **^ Top** #72 08.12.2008

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Originally Posted by LogsRus

Just making sure your hubby does know once that clock starts by him entering lines 3 or 4 he only has 14 hours to do his 11 hours in right?

SO he can't drive 2 hours, stop 1 hour ,drive 3 hours ,sleep 4 ,drive 5 ,stop 1 hour , drive 1 and so on. In this case above once he drove that last 1 hour he was in violation of his 14 hour rule. He didn't violate the 11 because he only drove 11 hours total but over his 14 hour by 1 hour.

Just checking to make sure.

Yep, he knows it. He started with Werner (paperless log). He had one oops on the 14 hour shortly after he started for Celadon, but hasn't goofed on that since. He has actually checked with Logs a couple of times when he wasn't sure about something. I'm the one that would have a problem with the new logging. I got spoiled under the old rules!

Part Time · **^ Top** #73 09.08.2008

My problem is'nt with the 70 hour rule. I need to know how many days prior to the drive day I need to show on my log. I work for a construction company and only drive once or twice a month. The rest of my time is spent running the jobs. The boss says Ionly need to show the day before driving, but I have heard that it should be 7 days.Please lead me in the right direction.

lostNfound · **^ Top** #74 09.08.2008

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Originally Posted by Part Time

My problem is'nt with the 70 hour rule. I need to know how many days prior to the drive day I need to show on my log. I work for a construction company and only drive once or twice a month. The rest of my time is spent running the jobs. The boss says Ionly need to show the day before driving, but I have heard that it should be 7 days.Please lead me in the right direction.

You are required to show the past seven days.

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #75 09.08.2008

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Originally Posted by Part Time

My problem is'nt with the 70 hour rule. I need to know how many days prior to the drive day I need to show on my log. I work for a construction company and only drive once or twice a month. The rest of my time is spent running the jobs. The boss says Ionly need to show the day before driving, but I have heard that it should be 7 days.Please lead me in the right direction.

It depends on where and what you are doing.

If you only drive the truck a couple of days of the month, I am assuming you are most likely only going to drive the truck locally, then the answer is one way.

If you are driving the truck outside of the 100 mile rule, then the answer is another way.

rollnrock · **^ Top** #76 09.09.2008

The 70 hour rule is "time on-duty" (lines 3 & 4) so 8.75 hours a day (on-duty + driving) for 8 days (8 X 8.75 = 70) which
then means line 4 subtracts from your drive time and if you stick to the 8.75 on duty per day at best you're getting 8.5 hours
of driving (8.75 - 15 minute pre-trip = 8.5)?

How many drivers can drive such short periods and make the delivery time?

Don't most drive close to 11 and do a reset?

I'm starting with MAY on the western 11 and if the loads have gracious delivery times I could see sticking to the 8.75 a day
and still make it.

Chuckster · **^ Top** #77 09.09.2008

This logbook stuff is harder than I thought? I'm a newby and start orientation next week. I want to run as hard as is legally possible, I will try your option 1 to see how it works. Thanks alot

Samantha82580 · **^ Top** #78 09.22.2008

Chuck - My only advice.....read read read....Here and on the websites that Logs and others have provided. They will probably NOT show you or tell you everything during training. Most will have to be learned on your own.

About these 70-hour strategies....I don't see how in the world one could keep from running out of hours when you have pre-plans that set you in one place today at a certain time, then tomorrow at a certain time, the day after you can only drop after a ridiculous time. Hubby has ran his hiney off and we are on day 6 after a reset. He will only be able to work for 5 hours tomorrow. I even sit down and tried to plan his driving around his pre-plans so he wouldn't run out....it doesn't matter how much you plan, someone, somewhere will hold you up costing you some hours. I am NOT complaining though, he got some good miles in this week and has seen a lot.

super10 · **^ Top** #79 10.02.2008

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Originally Posted by rollnrock

The 70 hour rule is "time on-duty" (lines 3 & 4) so 8.75 hours a day (on-duty + driving) for 8 days (8 X 8.75 = 70) which
then means line 4 subtracts from your drive time and if you stick to the 8.75 on duty per day at best you're getting 8.5 hours
of driving (8.75 - 15 minute pre-trip = 8.5)?

How many drivers can drive such short periods and make the delivery time?

Don't most drive close to 11 and do a reset?

I'm starting with MAY on the western 11 and if the loads have gracious delivery times I could see sticking to the 8.75 a day
and still make it.

Don't forget to add 15 minutes for a fuel stop and for load/unload times. In just my short few months of experience I can tell you that it will be close to impossible to stick with the 8.75 plan without having to be flexible here or there. You will have days where you may run less due to many reasons to include loading/unloading wait times, (I've had to wait 8 hours to unload because I missed my appointment by 10 minutes - "Sorry driver, I can't put you in front of the folks who showed up on time") While the theory is sound, there are circumstances which will let you run longer to play catch up or not run at all due to unforeseen but very palpable reasons.

While we drive the trucks, it seems the HOS regulations drive us.

jasdawn · **^ Top** #80 10.10.2008

can the 34 hour restart be taken as 12 sleeper 24 off duty???? i know a few years ago some states were not allowing it to be. company i just started working for want it done that way.

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