EOBR Electronic Logs - Good or Bad

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by SLCTrucker, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. PharmPhailPartsReplacer

    PharmPhailPartsReplacer Not to be confused with DinosPartsReplacer

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    At some point in the future a computer somewhere will take a major league dump and 1000's of the company steering wheel holders will be stranded not knowing which way to turn or what to do next.......
     
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  3. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Two things... one it eliminates just about all of the CSA points that can be charged in the fatigue catagory. Second is the feedback that the load planners get, making fleet utilization much higher. When the FMCSA does a compliance audit these days they go right for the electronic data - GPS location tags matched to electronic location reports. They don't even want to see the paper trail.

    I'm going to tell you right now that folks who do not understand HOS regulations are going to be behind the eightball from the git go. It has nothing to do with having a nanny look over your shoulder, or trust.
     
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  4. jerrytdd

    jerrytdd Light Load Member

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    All the planning in the world will not keep you from having to shutdown within 30 minutes of yard or house. three weeks ago 1.5 hours from yard, had to get 10 hrs in plus 15 min. pretrip, so 1.5 hrs turned into 11hrs 45 minutes to go home.
     
  5. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Hey.... maybe you could just leave the yellow button pulled and drive as much as you want! Yeah, that's it--that's the ticket.
     
  6. Rocks

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    DOT has seen my paper logs many times and I never got one DOT log violation.
    On my paper logs, I always showed 15 min for PTI and always flagged my pretrips and wrote 4, 5 or 6 min...
     
  7. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I am not sure about that.

    This week was my first one running hard with this thing. I am still running paper along with elogs until my company tells me to change. I ran out my 70 in 7 days last week. I pulled on the yard with 40 minutes remaining on my elog clock for my 70.

    My paper logs were in violation of the 70 hour rule. The difference was fuel stops shorter than 15 minutes and logging short bathroom breaks at terminals and customers (less than 8 minutes off duty). I did my paper logs based on the time stamp on my elogs. The rounding actually gave me more time and without elogs I would not have legally gotten home without a reset last week.

    You do have to be proactive with it. Get off of line 3 and 4 every chance you get even if its for only 1 minute. Thats one of the few advantages of the system. You get credit for off duty entries that would be flagged on paper logs if you were anal enough to do it.
     
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  8. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    When you stop... manually change your status from line 3 to line 1 or 2 immediately. If you have a moment to do this after you stop at the top of an exit ramp - not too far from where you're going, then do it there. Then, allow the sytem to take its time changing you back to line 3 when you depart. Another savings...

    Hint: When you're running close to the end of your 11 or 14 hour clocks, and you have to be somewhere by a certain time... take your GPS distance to go, and divide it by what's left on your DOT clock... that'll let you know if you can run fast enough to get to where you need to be. Its easier to speed-up early on, than to need to go warp 9 with not much time left...
     
  9. lovesthedrive

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    Thats because it is showing you that what you thought was legal isnt. It is a interesting world when something actually keeps strack of our times and allows us not to worry so much of missed lines.
     
  10. corneileous

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    Gee, isn't that the main reason why so many people are against electronic logs in the first place, they have to actually log what they do, rather than what they "say" they did??
     
  11. Saienga

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    Your logs are telling on you.

    You need to slow down. The e-logs (especially qualcomm's version) don't put you line 3 until you get over about 18-20 mph. I found that if I stay in 4th (on an 8 speed) and chug around at 1100-1300 rpm (12-15mph), I can go over a mile before the logs shift me back to driving. I actually discovered this at a Wal-Mart DC while looking for a lost trailer.

    You're getting bumped back to driving because, between the gate and your door, you're grabbing all kinds of gears and going 25-30 mph because you're not thinking like the machine. You're super hot and bothered because you think you have to hurry to save time. Take it easy in parking lots and at customers and you can do all of your docking and parking, etc. on duty or off duty.

    The system is designed to allow you to move around for the sake of parking, redocking, and all the other low-speed stuff. Just do it at low speed.
     
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