Well, I spose with that comment that you will be out of the industry indefinitely some day when the law makes paperless logs mandatory.
Are you high? Where in that labyrinth of a brain you have conjure this up? They cant change your logs and if they do, its highly illegal. Besides, your logs can only be changed when you ask for it and even then, you have to have good reason to change it. Plus, if something gets changed on the other end, the log book on your qualcom will reflect it and inform you that your logs have been updated. People like you that pull this ridiculous crap out of your arse that you think is valid points really need to have your head examined.
Yeah, but digital pictures can easily and quickly be edited. Don't be surprised if your pictures from your digital camera are inadmissible in court. Any picture, whether it comes from a point and shoot camera with film can be edited but not as easily and conveniently as digital.
EOBR Electronic Logs - Good or Bad
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by SLCTrucker, Apr 13, 2010.
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I have debated a similar dilemma regarding all the stuff I have in my truck (26" flat screen, xbox, refrigerator, home stereo system, microwave, computer and stand all wired into stereo system). If the company I work for changed or went out of business I might not be able to have all this stuff. I have had to consider if I could get by without all of it. I've done it in the past, but had to wonder if I could go back living on the bare essentials. Ultimately, within my own mind, I've decided I could go down to living out of a backpack again if I had to.Rocks Thanks this. -
It has been said already but bears repeating: the rules are NOT the problem, IT'S THE PAY!
A wise person told me a long time ago "work smart, not hard!"
All these companies advertise "more miles, more money!", what a load of bull schizz! I want more money for the miles I turn.
As long as we are paid by the mile, in effect, rewarded for breaking the rules, drivers will continue to run illegal.
Just a thought here, the technology exists to know EXACTLY when a driver is speeding or has run out of hours, right? Fine, drive as long as you want as fast as you want, but YOU DONT GET PAID FOR ANY MILES DRIVEN IF YOU ARE VIOLATING ANY RULES!!!
I wonder how many outlaws would work very long FOR FREE? Not very many I bet. I guess that'll never work because it makes too much sense!Rocks Thanks this. -
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And no, my head is not in the sand..... If anything, my neck and back is a little sore from trying to see things from your "perspective" but I guess I just ain't that limber....... -
I'm still on paper logs, but my company is going electronic. My friends who are on the EOBR system now are getting more miles than I am - not because of anything that my FM is doing. It's just that the status of the EOBR guys is immediately available to the load planners.
Comments from many of the EOBR guys is that they are somewhat limited by how the system works, but they get more available hours since the logging is to the minute rather than the next 15-minute increment. For example, if you're in and out of the fuel island in 8 minutes, it's logged that way - not as 15 minutes. Mostly it comes in dealing with what to do as the 11 and 14-hour clocks wind-down. It means you have to plan to have hours available when it comes to loading/unloading, and you have to plan your HOS breaks a little more carefully so you aren't left holding a bag with no hours in it.
As far as compliance reviews are concerned, the FMCSA isn't even looking at fuel receipts, scale tickets, etc. The only thing they want are the gps location tags. Those are time-stamped and recorded on the mainframe in San Diego - and therefore the data is controlled by QualComm. So how is my management going to alter that? The answer is they can't.
The biggest deal is altering your trip planning and driving habits to fit within the new framework that the EOBR presents. Can't deal with that, and you're gonna quit? Good. Just means there's more demand for those of us who can. The other plus that EOBRs bring is logbook compliance for CSA2010. That's the no. 1 issue on the CSA2010 scores that my company has received from FMCSA.
BTW, it's looking more-and-more as though the FMCSA and Congress will mandate EOBRs for all interstate CMVs. That's going to limit who you can go crying to when you decide that the computer-nanny/EOBR is being mean to you.Paddletrucker and JustSonny Thank this. -
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You are, in a way, kind of making my point of why it's important to run compliant. If evveryone ran compliant, the companies would know they couldn't pressure drivers. They pressure drivers because they can. Drivers LET them.
As for being involved in a fatality,
Uhhhhh....... If you are the o e behind the wheel, you ARE the one solely responsible.JustSonny Thanks this. -
49 CFR 392.6 - Schedules to conform with speed limits.
"No motor carrier shall schedule a run nor permit nor require the operation of any commercial motor vehicle between points in such period of time as would necessitate the commercial motor vehicle being operated at speeds greater than those prescribed by the jurisdictions in or through which the commercial motor vehicle is being operated."
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