There seems to be a debate raging at my company and I'm looking for more input. The question is; How long do you have to keep loose leaf log book pages in your log book for inspection? Some say 30 days, some say only 8 days.
What say you?
Log book page retention
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mainspring, Jun 26, 2010.
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Driver needs the last 8 days on hand. Company needs to keep them 6 months.
dieselbear Thanks this. -
I would only add that if you claim road expenses, you may wish to hold on to them longer. Whatever TV time period is that you might be subject to an IRS audit (?7 years?) -
Winchester is right.
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'Morning DB,
Let ask you, if a driver only hands you 8 days of logs in a loose leaf binder, doyou automatically assume cheating and start investigating more deeply? ?? -
Not the ossifers that I was inspected by.
Many of them never looked beyond day 2 to 4. Often times the current day, yesterday and day 3 and then hand it back.
Maybe thats because mine was some what neat, not school marm neat, but impressive for a truck driver.
If I remember right out of all the inspections I got only two officers ever added up my hrs to verify 70 hr compliance.
I sweated bullets at a level 3 one day when I had some where around 100 hrs on the pages in front of him.
He never added them up....... lucky for me. Those were the hrs I couldn't hide any longer.
Ah the "good old days" -
NEVER give an Officer more than 8 days to inspect. Just as an audit in the office going back 3, 4, 6 months can get you a ticket/fine, the same holds true for a roadside inspection. So if you hand him back 30 days and you had a boo-boo 23 days ago AND he caught it, you could be busted on the spot.
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Honestly, When I see loose leaf I know the potential is there. A lot has to do with the driver's attitude, but I check each and every driver the same. I try and verify everything I can. Some driver's just totally screw up their book. When I catch them with their pants around their ankles, some driver's instantly turn to an arse. Other's just say, "I'm f;d" At least with a bound log book, I know he's not changing hours to suit him......unless he has more than one or two. I've caught one guy with 4 log books. He was so stupid he couldn't do one book let alone 4.truckerdave1970 Thanks this. -
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Actually in Tehachapi they post copies of the most unbelievable pages (blocking out drivers info) Somethings really make you wonder. Springfield to Mojave in 1 drive shift. Thats condensed driving, 30 hours into 9 hours (really fast truck).
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