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    the Log book and being within 100 mile radius?

    I just want some info and opinions on being within 100 miles from home and whether to log it or not as it pertains to me and my current situation.

    First off, small company, no qualcomm, no HS dropout for a DM... Not particualrly concerned about my company coming down on me.

    I run exclusively midwest from Ohio to Kansas/ and the states above and below them. We have several "old school," accounts most of which originate or terminate near home within 100 mile radius. Likewise, alot of the loads are variable, straight from load boards or outside brokers.

    Today I spent well over half of my hours just "mopping up," within that 100 mile radius and finally got loaded for Kansas at the end of the day still within that radius. I get hourly pay for all of this and Im familar with how the company handles this, but usually I still log it all when this happens and usually I end up back at the yard and go home for the night and grab a preloaded early early early the next morning.......

    So since I actually got loaded about 60 miles from home today and Im the one taking this load for tomorrow morning, it got me thinking......

    If I wanted.. could I push this load for the next 11 hours, right now? Being that I worked nearly 9 hours already? When I came on duty this morning, knowing I was staying local for the day, was I still suppose to go on duty in my log?

    Where I can I find this info? Im guessing since this only happens once in a blue moon, that I should just be logging it and take my ten hour and get over it...... Its only 5 at night... I AM NOT TIRED!!!! I still could go home if I really wanted, but I screwed off at the truck stop for a few hours, lol, so its pretty impractical at this point.....

    Does that 100 mile radius rule even apply to me or is it like a company thing, for companies who exclusively stay within 100 miles of home?


    Thanks guys and gals


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    You could not push that load for the next 11 hours because the 14 hour rule applies. It would be easier to log the local work if you are going to run the load. You have to account for the time anyway, and it may be within 100 miles, but it is not off-duty. "Radius" drivers' hours are kept by the company using time cards, or in fact pencil reports prepared by the driver. I kept a regular log when I was a radius driver. It was easier than making a log for the days when I went beyond the radius. You must have a record of the last seven days start and stop times in your possession, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyeyes View Post
    I just want some info and opinions on being within 100 miles from home and whether to log it or not as it pertains to me and my current situation.

    First off, small company, no qualcomm, no HS dropout for a DM... Not particualrly concerned about my company coming down on me.

    I run exclusively midwest from Ohio to Kansas/ and the states above and below them. We have several "old school," accounts most of which originate or terminate near home within 100 mile radius. Likewise, alot of the loads are variable, straight from load boards or outside brokers.

    Today I spent well over half of my hours just "mopping up," within that 100 mile radius and finally got loaded for Kansas at the end of the day still within that radius. I get hourly pay for all of this and Im familar with how the company handles this, but usually I still log it all when this happens and usually I end up back at the yard and go home for the night and grab a preloaded early early early the next morning.......

    So since I actually got loaded about 60 miles from home today and Im the one taking this load for tomorrow morning, it got me thinking......

    If I wanted.. could I push this load for the next 11 hours, right now? Being that I worked nearly 9 hours already? When I came on duty this morning, knowing I was staying local for the day, was I still suppose to go on duty in my log?

    Where I can I find this info? Im guessing since this only happens once in a blue moon, that I should just be logging it and take my ten hour and get over it...... Its only 5 at night... I AM NOT TIRED!!!! I still could go home if I really wanted, but I screwed off at the truck stop for a few hours, lol, so its pretty impractical at this point.....

    Does that 100 mile radius rule even apply to me or is it like a company thing, for companies who exclusively stay within 100 miles of home?


    Thanks guys and gals
    (e) Short-haul operations
    (e)(1) 100 air-mile radius driver. A driver is exempt from the requirements of Section 395.8 if:
    (e)(1)(i) The driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location;
    (e)(1)(ii) The driver, except a driver-salesperson, returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
    (e)(1)(iii)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 10 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
    (e)(1)(iii)(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver has at least 8 consecutive hours off duty separating each 12 hours on duty;
    (e)(1)(iv)(A) A property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 11 hours maximum driving time following 10 consecutive hours off duty; or
    (e)(1)(iv)(B) A passenger-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver does not exceed 10 hours maximum driving time following 8 consecutive hours off duty; and
    (e)(1)(v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing
    (e)(1)(v)(A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
    (e)(1)(v)(B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
    (e)(1)(v)(C) The time the driver is released from duty each day; and
    (e)(1)(v)(D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with 395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently

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    Lots of OTR time, but I've never driven locally - question - I may be working 3-4 days a week driving a Volvo daycab and a 4-car trailer, hauling auction cars, all within 100 miles from home port and not exceeding 12 hour days.

    Can someone throw out what I'm supposed to do for local logs..?

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    In that case, keep a time card at your terminal. I think you would fall under the 100 mile exclusion rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin View Post
    Lots of OTR time, but I've never driven locally - question - I may be working 3-4 days a week driving a Volvo daycab and a 4-car trailer, hauling auction cars, all within 100 miles from home port and not exceeding 12 hour days.

    Can someone throw out what I'm supposed to do for local logs..?

    Many companies just have a time sheet.

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    Cool, that works. Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin View Post
    Lots of OTR time, but I've never driven locally - question - I may be working 3-4 days a week driving a Volvo daycab and a 4-car trailer, hauling auction cars, all within 100 miles from home port and not exceeding 12 hour days.

    Can someone throw out what I'm supposed to do for local logs..?
    Driver exempt log; if they do not have you punch a time card at the yard. Basicaly, all you do is keep track of your hours on it. Start time and finish time every day. Also, although you may never use it, have a log book on you also, just for the rare case that you may exceed twelve hours.

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    I not sure because they were supplied to use by the company but you may be able to find a log book for the 100 mile drivers at the truck stop. Again I'm not sure because they company provided them. Remember it's 100 air miles and not road miles and Dieselbear provided the rules and where to find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyns57 View Post
    You must have a record of the last seven days start and stop times in your possession, regardless.
    NOT! It is called the 100 air mile exemption, Yup! Exemption from carrying a log. You don't need the 'time record' in the truck and you don't need the previous 7 days.

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