The 11 & 14 Hour Rule explanation

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Nov 23, 2006.

  1. Lurchgs

    Lurchgs Road Train Member

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    If you split-berth log, so long as you spend at least 2 hours at the dock (line 1 or 2 - or both), you should have time to find a place to park nearby (assuming, of course, you didn't burn your 11 on the way in). Just take 8 in the sleeper once you DO park, and you should be fine.
     
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  3. ssbowles

    ssbowles Heavy Load Member

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    Legally, yes they are wrong. But what are you supposed to do? Shipper won't let you stay on their property, you can't legally park on the street, and you're out of hours. I guess you could pull a David Copperfield and make the truck disappear....:biggrin_25512: Personally, I will drive until I can find a ramp/unimproved pull-out to park at for the night. I didn't say that was legal, but that's what I'd do and have done many times. Think LA here, there are no truck stops or rest areas within 100 miles...
    Of course your company and/or the DOT will say that you should've found a place to park before your clock ran out....it's a catch 22.
     
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  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    If you have to do such a thing always log it as you did it and make a note in the remark section of the time frame you are over and pray the officer understands (chances are he will, but he is not under oath to accept it). It can be a fine but if you write it on there "BEFORE" he catches you then he knows you wasn't "trying" to run over on your logs and false them

    Remember officers would rather not have any log violations but one rule of thumb we all normally have is don't lie to me!

    So in DOT's eyes they would rather see an hours of service violation as to a false log. FAlse means you are logging somewhere you are really not on your log sheet! :yes2557::biggrin_25517:
     
  5. Coonass

    Coonass "Freshy Fresh"

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    LogRus

    I need you to explain the split spleeper option to me if you dont mind. My thing is this I run hotshot work sort of, and I usually never have to worry about going over my 11. The problem is I allways run out of the 14 and I'm usually not but a couple hrs. from the house, so I dont want to have to take a whole 10 hr break. Please explain how the split option works. Thanks in advance.
     
  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    The only way you can split now is a 8-2 split.
     
  7. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    You need to have 8 hours in the sleeper before you can extend the 14 hour period.

    Another thing is you can't drive 11 and then extend the 1 hour period.

    Im going to post another sheet explaing the 11/14 & split breaking. Mainly touching basis on the regulations & split breaking tips! Im trying to make it easy. If everyone just reads through them and draw some examples and keep studying (which it doesn't take long to catch on) then you will get it and know how to deal with your day to day issues on logging. Im not being a smart ellic just trying to let all drivers know that are reading this.

    Im posting in regulations
     
  8. Grandiego

    Grandiego Medium Load Member

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    No splits is an SNI policy. Looks like the theoretical problem I brought up isn't really a problem at all with a split, if you were waiting around for at least two hours to be loaded before you left, and you had run less than 9 hrs since last 10hr break. That would give you 2 hrs to find a safe place to stop. thx.
     
  9. Grandiego

    Grandiego Medium Load Member

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    Knowledge and common sense too. Logs, your contributions are always appreciated.
     
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