Logging Commuting Miles

They must be joking....Or they're idiots!

You don't have to log miles in your POV nor do you have to log them in your tractor if you're bobtailing to the yard as personal conveyance.

 

Must be pulling your leg.

Only driving time in Commercial Vehicle needs to be logged.

Some of the companies have Electronic logs that log any movement.

 

"Some guy on the internet said it was OK."

OR

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y

Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?
Guidance: When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver’s home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver’s terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver’s en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver’s home, from the driver’s home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier’s Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.
A driver placed out of service for exceeding the requirements of the hours of service regulations may not drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) to any location to obtain rest.

 

So IF you've bobtailed or even brought an empty trailer home with you AND you go back to the terminal without being dispatched (not sure how you would explain this at a scale) then this can be considered "personal conveyance"/off duty?

i mean why would you go back to the terminal if you weren't dispatched, unless you knew you were going to be dispatched as soon as you got there and you're trying to conserve hours?

 

I was doing assignments out of the Green Book(still in school) and I read that commuting from home to a report to work is considered On Duty - Not Driving and would count towards your daily 14 hours. It also said something about taking 10 hours off duty after reporting to yoiur work location before you could go on duty for 14 hours. If I come across it again, I will report back. I was thinking what BS is that when I was reading it.

FOUND IT:

395.1 (j) Travel time'(1) When a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver at the direction of the motor carrier is traveling, but not driving or assuming any other responsibility to the carrier, such time must be counted as on-duty time unless the driver is afforded at least 10 consecutive hours off duty when arriving at destination, in which case he/she must be considered off duty for the entire period.

 

I think you spent too many hours reading the same sentence.

The reference has already been posted, above, by tscottme. Any time in a POV is off duty.

 

The key phrase (in red) is the kicker! It means that you are under dispatch...That would not be considered personal conveyance.

Also the section that you quoted refers to a driver riding as a passenger in a vehicle at the direction of the carrier and not driving or doing anything else.

 

Some eloctronic logs have Line 5 - which is to record Driving - Off Duty to cover bobtailing for personal purposes such as going home etc. It's on there to record the mileage more than anything.