(A) report required. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated and the report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:

•Service brakes including trailer brake connections.
•Parking (hand) brake.
•Steering mechanism.
•Lighting devices and reflectors.
•Tires.
•Horn.
•Windshield wipers.
•Rear vision mirrors.
•Coupling devices.
•Wheels and rims.
•Emergency equipment.

•(B) report content. The report shall identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency discovered by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in its mechanical breakdown. If no defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver, the report shall so indicate. In all instances, the driver shall sign the report. On two-driver operations, only one driver needs to sign the driver vehicle inspection report, provided both drivers agree as to the defects or deficiencies identified. If a driver operates more than one vehicle during the day, a report shall be prepared for each vehicle operated.

If you notice you have more things to check and it states it must be done in writting. I guess it is all in how you read it

Let me know what you think?

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Many companies have explained the pre-trip is more important than the post-trip. If they would read the difference between the pre & post they could see the difference. It was brought up in another message that was not titled anything to do with pre & post. That's all! You are right nothing has changed so you are all GOOD! Well on logs ok!

Logs r us,hi,It is my understanding that not all states have endorsed the post trip as mandontory,some of the bigger companies II have worked for told me that ma.enforces it and can fine you for not doing a post trip,I have never been told or warned about the post trip and have never shown it on logs,i do check my tires and lights at night before I lie down. i have also been told like when I worked for roadway locally that I should post trip because different drivers drive different trucks alot and it helps the mechanic to fix and not overlook anything. Whats your input on this,should you always do both pre and post on your logs everyday? thanks again.

I do a post when I'm dropping a trailer. Otherwise I just do a TIV and a tire check everytime I stop.

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I have not trucked in Canada since 1998. At that time, Canada required a written pre-trip whereas the U.S. required a written post-trip inspection.

Like I usually say "BOTH" are important. If you are not the only one in the truck (like you drive day and there is someone driving it at night) I would "FOR SURE" Check the equipment 'VERY WELL' Prior to driving it and yes out of curtosy you should check for anything wrong at the end of your shift to warn someone asap! hopefully before the next driver comes in.

But if you are the only one driving the truck (OTR) and you do a thorough inspection at night (everything that is required on pre&post) why do it again since you have been with the vehicle all night and haven't left it? The reasoning behind it is in your favor of saving time (possibly, not always). The pre-trip is only what I posted and check anything that you know someone could have tampered with while you was sleeping. They just want you to be satisfied the vehicle is in safe operating condition! It is all up to you there! Most times I hear the officers tell my drivers as long as you have 1 vehicle inspection on line 4 during any 24 hour period you are ok. But if you spend 30 minutes doing a pre-trip then you should log 30 minutes, because that is what you really did! If it takes you 1 hour to do a post-trip that is what you should log, because that is what you really did! Remember thorough inspection # night will help you and the company! You do have to follow your company rules though, if they want to lose hours you can be on the road that is fine? You could still do the post thoroughly and log 15 minutes for a pre-trip to satisfy the company. Did this help?

My understanding of the current regulations is that you are required to show the time in your log for doing the pre trip inspection, but there is no rrequirement to show any time for the post trip. And correspondingly, the only form you have to fill out for the pre trip is the back side of the log book sheet, while you are supposed to fill out a Vehicle Inspection Form (or it's equal) to document the post trip.

I make it a rule that I fill out the pre trip form before moving the truck as part of filling out my log for the day. For post trip inspections, I always fill it out for any trailer that had an economic impact on me. If I shuttle a trailer 5 miles to a plant, then I don't fill out a form. But if I pick up 3 loaded trailers throughout the day, each of them will receive a written post trip sheet as part of the process of dropping them off.

From what I can tell, I am more diligent than many in doing my VIR forms, but that's the procedures i follow, and they seem to draw no complaints from above.

Just out of curiosity, I see the detailed list of a post trip; can anybody tell me what consists of the pre-trip?

Drop down about 12-15 threads and you will find a pre trip thread.