Has HAZMAT but doesn't need PLACARDS???

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by airforcetoo, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    If in doubt, put a placard on the trailer. It shouldn't be too hard to obtain, and could very well save you thousands of dollars in fines...or so my studying has said. If you were in a situation where you could not get on this forum to ask the question or no one has responded yet, your best bet would be to: 1. Call the company that you're at, and ask them the question, 2. go online to your state's DMV and bring up the online manual, or 3. placard it. It'd probably be best to do all 3, but that would be me because I would be the one to pay the fines and my driving record would suffer the consequences. So, it falls on the driver, again. That's my 2 cents. I'm not trying to be an ###hole, just realistic and practical.
     
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  3. Jopper

    Jopper Light Load Member

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    Thats sound advice Haunted, I am no longer a driver, I am the guy the drivers call to explain the regulations. I have a class A Hazmat driver pulling the load, so we are all good. Shipping just was tossing around ideas about the possibility of a non-cdl driver, picking up some LTL in a smaller truck. Needless to say, I did not approve my company to make that run.
     
  4. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    Oh, my bad. I am by no means a trucker yet. I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in, seeming how I am studying for my permit test; therefore, the information I'm reviewing and easy for me to obtain. I'm glad you played it safe! I know that getting a ticket can make-or-break a drivers career (depending on the severity of it, of course). Gotta send your best guys and/or the one's with the endorsements and knowledge to do the job right, huh? :biggrin_2554:
     
  5. Jopper

    Jopper Light Load Member

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    You bet haunted! Good luck on your tests, just relax and you will do fine. My first job right out of school was team driving for a local flatbed company with a guy I just graduated CDL school with a month prior. It was november, and we had lots of runs to the NE. I-79, I-77 wild ### ride for a newbie! Man it was cold, and the tarps were like sheets of ice. MY partner was so nerved up, I do not think he slept for several days. He had drove big trucks as a young man, thank god he had experience, he literally save our ### a couple of times. Think they paid the truck .40 a mile, so we got to split that. The truck never, ever stopped, 12 day trips and home for a reset. I was exhausted! You can actually get some decent sleep after a while in a moving truck, although I have to admit I sprang for a motel every few days to get some decent sleep and a nice hot shower. It was no vacation, but the ride was exciting.
     
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  6. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    To most, that sounds exciting, but doesn't seem appealing: to me, it sounds exciting, and definitely appealing! Thanks for sharing one of your many experiences with me! Thank you very much; I have been studying within reason (not going overboard), and learning a lot of valuable information! I cannot wait to start a career in trucking! I know it won't be a cake walk and the first year will probably suck, but I believe that is true with any job. I have received so much valuable insight and wisdom on this forum, it's crazy! After graduating school, I wish to go flatbed with Melton, or tanker with Schneider. I am uncertain yet and when the time comes, it'll be an even harder decision! I'm leaning more towards Melton, though! I haven't heard too bad of things about them anywhere, and the drivers that I have talked to from Melton, are nice, good guys who are eager to assist you in your new career (they don't care about that referral bonus)!

    Best of luck to you, Jopper!
     
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    Jopper Light Load Member

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    Good idea going flats or tankers! Good luck!
     
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  8. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I'm sorry but that's the worse advice I've ever seen on this site. Not only bad but dangerous to everyone around that truck. You always go by the shipping papers and NEVER guess. You talk about fines. The fines are so much more for falsely placing a wrong placard on a truck. Maybe you'll understand if you know what the reasons are. Placards are used to communicate the hazards on the truck. If a fire company or first responder is called out (and they will be if you have placards on) and find nothing of the sort you'll need a bank to pay the fines and most likely you'll be looking for a new job. I'm surprised and disappointed that these drivers that are hauling hazmat have no idea where to look for the rules and regulations. Try the CFR 49 Transportation parts 100 to 177. This should be burned into your mind if you're going to act on your own.
     
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  9. HauntedSchizo19

    HauntedSchizo19 Medium Load Member

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    You're right, and I'm wrong. Thank you for actually clarifying so. I could have sworn somewhere that I read that if you are not certain about placarding, you can place placards in the correct areas on the trailer. I just went back and checked, and you're right! Thank you for taking the time to explain. I'm, obviously, not a trucker, nor do I hold a Hazardous Materials endorsement (thankfully); I'd be really ashamed if I did, and responded with such. I'm surprised it took this long for someone to catch.

    Anyway, lesson of the day: do not listen to any advice given by me, and I will not give out advice unless I'm 110% sure I'm right.

    Thanks, again!
     
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