Much confusion MC#?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Independent51, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Independent51

    Independent51 Bobtail Member

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    I've got some confusion going on about whether or not I need an MC# or not. This is how it works.

    I am going to be contracted as an Independent contractor by company (A) to deliver home goods.

    Company (A) contacts me to pick up the goods at company (B) loading dock.

    I pick up the goods from company (B) and deliver them.

    I will be delivering all the products in ONE state, never crossing state lines.

    I contacted the FMCSA in my state and they told me I DO NOT need an MC#. Is this correct.

    The reason I'm confused is Company (A) told me I needed to have an MC#.

    If anyone can clear this up you'll be doing me a heap of help and rid me of this migraine. :biggrin_255:
     
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  3. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    Depends on the goods. Sounds like intrastate trucking the way you describe it. Does Company B make the goods or are they storing materials that might have come from another state.

    That is considered interstate commerce and you would need authority and a number.

    Company A might just want to see the number as then you can be considered a motor carrier, Being a motor carrier means you have Federal financial responsibilities to maintain insurance,etc. [part387 Minimum financial responsibility of motor carriers]
     
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  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    MC# is your operating authority. If you ain't crossing state lines, no authority needs to be designated.

    In other words, operating authority applies only to "Interstate" commerce and not "Intrastate".

    Here's some links you can look at if you want to print out proof.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/registration-overview.htm

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/registration-OP.htm

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/registration-forms.htm

    MA doesn't require USDOT# either

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/registration-USDOT.htm
     
  5. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Are you sure they are saying MC and not DOT number? You would need a DOT number in most cases, but legally not a MC# since you would be doing INTRAstate deliveries. However, the company you're doing the deliveries might require it as policy, or they might just have an uneducated person in control.
    ETA Thanks CC for the state by state DOT requirements
     
  6. Independent51

    Independent51 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the responses, much appreciated. The goods do come from out of state. They are dropped at (as an example, Home Depot), then I am contracted by company (A) to go pick them up and deliver them.

    The guy at the FMCSA office initially said exactly what you have posted, He said, "if the goods are coming from out of state you would need an MC#", then he said, "oh wait, hang on", he returned 10 minutes later and said, "If you are picking them up at the distribution point and then delivering them, never crossing state lines, you DO NOT need an MC#.

    So, I'm hoping I don't need one. I know I DO need a DOT number.

    What circumstance would I need an MC# if I'm not crossing state lines? What difference does it make if the load originated out of state and then I delivered it? That makes NO sense to me at all.
     
  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I gotta ask...you state the "FMCSA in your state". FMCSA is Federal, so whoever you talked to would be state, not federal. Also, FYI, some years back, I worked doing LTL in Ca. and my company said they didn't have to pay OT, because the freight, or some of it, came from other states, which they say meant no OT with hauling INTERSTATE shipments.
     
  8. Independent51

    Independent51 Bobtail Member

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    I don't get that statement, "FMCSA is Federal, so whoever you talked to would be state, not federal" _ Explain please

    These are the people I spoke to, wrong ones?

    Federal Highway Administration Division Offices
    (New England States)
    Massachusetts
    55 Broadway, 10th Floor
    Cambridge, MA 02142
    617-494-3657 Fax - 617-494-3355


    They gave me this number to call,

    Field Office Phone List - Federal Motor Carrier Safety ...
    50 Mall Road Suite 212 Burlington, MA 01803 Phone: (781) 425-3210

    I must have been speaking with the correct people, no?
    Aren't these people THE authority when it comes to these matters?
     
  9. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    wis bang is correct. It all depends on the origin of the freight. Not just you driving, but the freight can determine interstate or intrastate.

    Is point A a manufacturer or is point A a warehouse cross docking freight?

    Is the freight Hazmat?

    Here call the field office in MA.

    Massachusetts Division

    50 Mall Road
    Suite 212
    Burlington, MA 01803

    Phone: (781) 425-3210 Fax: (781) 425-3225
     
  10. Independent51

    Independent51 Bobtail Member

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    This is the EXACT office I spoke with informing me I DO NOT need an MC#.

    Still confused.
     
  11. Sly Fox

    Sly Fox Road Train Member

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    Your "Company A" may be telling you that you need authority to haul. If it's intrastate, you might need intrastate authority (they just might not know the difference). Or, maybe they're trying to tell you that their freight is coming from or eventually destined to go outside the state and therefore requires interstate authority. Even if you never leave your state.

    At the end of the day, the company contracting you gets to set their requirements. If they want an MC# for you to haul for them, you're going to have to give them an MC#. It could be completely pointless. But, if that's what they want, that's what they want.
     
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