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    HOS what's the point?

    Just finished talking to a good friend that is now a medical doctor. He Just finish his residency and is also working on some research projects as well as a patient physican with a weekly stint in the ER.

    Typically he does a 12 hour shift. Then a short break does ER for 2 or three more hours, 'drives' to get coffee... then studies and review research data at home... eats/sleeps for about 4-5 hours... Then, does it all over again. Folks, that is about 120 hours a week. He also said most of the MD's get about the same rest as he does... WOW!

    My point?

    Trucker get 70 hours, or we will likely kill someone due to fatigue and lack of rest. Leading to errors in judgement driving a big truck.... Hmm?

    You think physicians get tired too? Are they not directly responsible for human life? Could this lead to errors in judgement? How many people do you think could possible die from error in judgement from a fatigued MD?

    Log books for doctors? Should it happen? Will it happen?

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    I agree with you ,but they will tell you we can take out more people in a accident than a doctor can if either one made a mistake.

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    Well I hope that made since. It looked good till I posted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat albert View Post
    I agree with you ,but they will tell you we can take out more people in a accident than a doctor can if either one made a mistake.
    But over 80% of truck accidents involving a 4 wheeler the 4 wheeler is at fault . How many patients are at fault in incidents involving doctors ?

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    I guess that's why doctors pay huge sums for for personal mal-practice insurance but I don't know of a single driver paying mal-practice insurance. (though many should/need to) ... (But don't mention this to Obama or that idiot LaHood to give them any ideas)

    Yes, Owner-Operators pay liability insurance but you get my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STexan View Post
    I guess that's why doctors pay huge sums for for personal mal-practice insurance but I don't know of a single driver paying mal-practice insurance. (though many should/need to) ... (But don't mention this to Obama or that idiot LaHood to give them any ideas)

    Yes, Owner-Operators pay liability insurance but you get my point.
    As a full time volunteer paramedic, I was covered by the fire department. But, when I would man the ambulance, for even one call as a paid paramedic, they would cover me, but I also paid for mal practice insurance as well out of my pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickG View Post
    But over 80% of truck accidents involving a 4 wheeler the 4 wheeler is at fault . How many patients are at fault in incidents involving doctors ?
    They always some how forget to mention that when they talk about the accident rate involving big trucks. I have never heard of any patients at fault yet, but there is always tomorrow I guess, just give the media time.

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    HOS are a direct result of drug use in the 60's and 70's and drivers driving straight for days at a time high on speed.

    Other occupations are on the road for a a short commute each day. They don't drive 600 miles everyday for a living.

    Besides, doctors take naps at the hospital if they are that tired.

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    Bottemline, there has to be a HOS. If there was not, every shipper, dispatcher, and broker in the country would expect you to drive 24 hours a day so they to could make more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CondoCruiser View Post
    HOS are a direct result of drug use in the 60's and 70's and drivers driving straight for days at a time high on speed.

    Other occupations are on the road for a a short commute each day. They don't drive 600 miles everyday for a living.

    Besides, doctors take naps at the hospital if they are that tired.
    CondoCruiser the HOS have been around since the 1930's and they were suppose to "protect" the driver from trucking company owners who would run them 24 hours a day. At least that's the theory,but we all know the reality was and is different. Today its much harder with all the computers and such to cheat on the HOS,but a few still manage to do so. This why EOBR's will eventually become manadorty for all companies.

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