on duty not driving after 14

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by airforcetoo, Jul 6, 2012.

  1. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    It's legal to be on line 4 ”On Duty Not Driving” after your 14 is up - true or false
     
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  3. scuba9278

    scuba9278 Bobtail Member

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    Stay on line 4 on duty not driving as long as you like lol :biggrin_25520: just remember you need to be on line 1 not on duty or line 2 in sleeper to reset
     
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  4. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Yes, you can be on line 4 after 14 or even 70 hours, you just can't drive.
     
  5. airforcetoo

    airforcetoo Heavy Load Member

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    I thought 70 was the on duty max
     
  6. Sabine in Mo

    Sabine in Mo Medium Load Member

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    70 is the max for driving, not for non critical work such as load, unload etc.
     
  7. TRUCK3R M1KE

    TRUCK3R M1KE Light Load Member

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    You can be on line 4 for 2 weeks straight (provided you don't need sleep, food, bathroom, etc). As long as you get your 34 Reset, you'll be good to go.

    Think of it like this....

    You only accrue logbook violations on Line 3.

    -Driving past your 70 in 8
    -Driving past your 11 or 14
    -Driving without proper 10-hour break (always, always, ALWAYS log your 10 as straight sleeper or straight off-duty, regardless of how you mix the two. This insures that you always have at least 8 on one of them no matter what).
    -Driving while being logged on a different status (counts as "Not Current")
    -Driving under disqualification, without CDL, without registration/insurance, etc.
    -Not being current on status (obviously you were driving to get pulled in/over and checked, as no one is going to wake you up to see if your logbook shows you as being in the sleeper).

    There are no violations specifically for Line 1, 2, & 4. It all has to do with whether you did what you needed to do to be legally operating the vehicle.
     
  8. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Actually, you could go from line 1 to line 2, back to line one, every fifteen minutes, for 10 hours and satisfy the 10 hour break rule. It would look screwy and raise some eyebrows, but it is 100% legal. Very seldom do I show 10 straight hours in the sleeper. It's normally 1 to 2 hours on line 1, generally 6 hours in the sleeper on line 2 and the rest of my 10 off, back on line 1. I have never been questioned on that, nor even raised an eyebrow.
     
  9. TRUCK3R M1KE

    TRUCK3R M1KE Light Load Member

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    Incorrect.

    Sleeper Berth Provision - HOS Regulation valid until 7/1/2013

    -Drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus a separate 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm


    *is why I just show it all on one line, and that's what I teach others.
     
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  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Dude wasn't referencing the split sleeper. He (that's an assumption Autocar could be a dudette) is just stating that for a 10 hour break you can change from 1 to 2 to 1 to 2 all willy nilly like and it wont matter as long as it's 10 consecutive hours without an interruption of line 3 or 4.
     
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  11. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    My e logs reset after 4 hours off duty and 6 off in sleeper. It must be okay since their e logs, the computer knows!!!!!!

    All kidding aside I usually log sleeper berth for all 10. I've had yo split log to make appt times. 8 hours in the sleeper, drive to shipper and spend 2 hours in the sleeper and boom, hours reset.

    Ethan
     
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