Stopped for a Level 1 inspection, printed a Level 2 report

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by KANSAS TRANSIT, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,842
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0
    IF they DON't HAVE to issue a sticker then what is the sense, I would "think" that it should be an all or nothing deal.

    Either it gets done EVERY time or NOT AT ALL, OTHERWISE you "COULD" have a easy case of discrimination, NO?????

    The NAS Level I Inspection

    The NAS Inspection examines all of the following: driver's license, medical examiner's certificate and waiver, alcohol and drugs (if applicable), driver's record of duty status (as required), hours of service, seat belt, vehicle inspection report, as well as the brake system, coupling devices, exhaust system, frame, fuel system, turn signals, brake lamps, tail lamps, head lamps, lamps on projecting loads, safe loading, steering mechanism, suspension, tires, van and open-top trailer bodies, wheels and rims, windshield wipers, emergency exits on buses and HM requirements, as applicable.The North American Standard Level I and Level V are the only inspections that may result in issuance of a CVSA decal. To qualify for a CVSA decal, a vehicle must not have any violations of the items contained in this operational policy and North American Standard Out-of-Service Criteria.Inspections must be performed by and CVSA decals affixed by North American Standard Level I and/or Level V certified inspectors. The term "certified" as used in this section means the government employee performing inspections and/or affixing CVSA decals must have first successfully completed a training program approved by the Alliance. CVSA decals, when affixed, shall remain valid for a period not to exceed three consecutive months. Vehicles displaying a valid CVSA decal generally will not be subject to re-inspection.However, nothing shall prevent re-inspection of a vehicle or combination of vehicles bearing valid CVSA decals, under the conditions specified in the section titled, "Re-Inspection."
     
    last 1 Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,366
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    and fasteners can only be torqued so many times until they fail.

    It's called Torque to yield. There is a service life on fasteners too.
     
  4. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

    4,080
    6,842
    Jul 28, 2011
    Glasco,Ks.
    0

    In a situation such as this wouldn't it be prudent to set the TQ wrench to JUST below your ideal setting? In other words, If your TQ requirement is 105, set the wrench at 103, in most cases there is usually and acceptable TQ "range" TQ to the low side of that range.
     
  5. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,366
    Feb 24, 2012
    0
    not really. Every time you are pushing that fastener to the torque limit you are also setting it up to be closer to it's fail point.

    Part of the reason if someone does an in-frame, you had best hammer them for new studs or head bolts on that block. They are supposed to be torqued to yield not a torque setting.

    It's a most critical thing on a vehicle and it's the most abused item. Fasteners. Doesn't matter if it's in an engine, on a frame or an axle. They have a service life that's totally ignored.

    Just an article I grabbed for more information on torque-to-yield, torque-to-angle and other related stuff on fasteners.
    http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Item/2343/threaded_fasteners_torquetoyield_and_torquetoangle.aspx

     
  6. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

    2,468
    9,241
    Feb 10, 2008
    Michigan
    0
    Purely retrospectively pointing out the outlaw's POV.
    :banghead:
    (Where's a dancing around the subject smilie when you want one):D
     
  7. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

    2,821
    1,133
    Oct 25, 2009
    Lynchburg,Tn
    0
    Doing what. He gave your driver a clean level 2 inspection. A level 2 can include more than a simple walk around but fall short of a full level 1 requiring a pit to check low trailers such as yours.

    The level 2 will be counted as part of the vehicle maintenance basic if that is your concern.


    I have had several clean level 1's without being issued a sticker. Never gave it much thought as I used to pull the gaudy dang things off until I received back to back same day inspections in Kentucky and the Officer got mad at me for removing them. His point to me was leaving them on allowed them to inspect different trucks instead of the same ones over and over.

    Your story did jog a memory. I was inspected in Mn when I drove for Barr-Nunn. The Officer put a decal on the guy behind me while I was signing for my records. I asked how come he got a gold star and not me. He said my brakes while legal were barely so I was getting due for service at Granger and knew the plan was to replace them but understood his point. The other truck was in better shape over all and I guess he was using them to give that equipment a by for a couple months were as mine could stand looking at in that time frame.

    I am not saying that is the case here, just giving an examp,e of how while biased there was a basis for it.
     
  8. last 1

    last 1 Medium Load Member

    439
    184
    Nov 29, 2009
    0
    I got a level one at the scale on I-94 around Porter IN.

    It was raining. I had received one on Tuesday in Missouri. This was Friday.

    The inspector took my paper and did a level one and never left the car.
    Kinda like alot of truck drivers pre and post trip insp:biggrin_25521:
     
  9. last 1

    last 1 Medium Load Member

    439
    184
    Nov 29, 2009
    0
    I could care less about the sticker as long as the paperwork showed the level 1
     
  10. -insert name-

    -insert name- ATM squishier

    1,293
    633
    Jul 12, 2012
    SOMEWHERE
    0
    Why I keep a box of them, and every other tool for a quick repair. Their not ignored, whats ignored is being ready for anything. "Oh, that won't happen to me!" I even have spare airline heads and bits of the line, along with clamps that will last until I get it fixed right.
     
  11. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

    7,985
    4,366
    Feb 24, 2012
    0

    I would say no.

    There is a huge difference between a driver sitting in a truck 24/7 and a DOT bear seeing a truck for a first time.

    You or I can have a pretty decent idea what's happening with the truck just from driving it day and night. You learn that about at 5000 miles between oil changes, you need to almost put a gallon of oil in or you need to start checking it closer.

    You know that when it's due a lube you can tell the way something reacts to operation. (So you tighten up the lube intervals)

    A dot inspector knows nothing about the pulse of the truck and how it's operating.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.